It really depends on the round you are using. LFP shots have been pretty consistent one shot kills for me against any Abrams with most common 11.7-12.7 MBT rounds.
I wouldn’t even be annoyed if they said it was solely a balance based decision
Doesnt that brochure state “mois de 6 seconds”…“less than 6 seconds” or am i tweaking? Less than 6 seconds can basically be anything, well, below 6 seconds. Not sure if im remembering the correct brochure mentioned here and im too lazy to find it scrolling through 100s of posts…“less than 6 seconds” how is that a precise number to implement into the game?
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If it were 5 seconds, they would have written 5.
Am I correct in understanding that, by this logic, for T-series tanks, where turret traverse speed is stated as “at least 20-24” and gun elevation as “at least 3.5-4.4,” we could use the numbers 100 and 100?
Or better yet, 1000 and 1000. That would technically qualify as “at least 20.”
However, the game only provides the minimum declared values.
If it is “less then 6 seconds” then why chose 6 seconds as the reload rate? Anyways im just confused as why to take such a vague mention in a brochure which is unclear at what time or for what purpose that thing was published when apparently the snail has had trustable sources of which they based the lowering of its reload some time ago on? Ill not get further involved in this now as it seems just plain pointless for me, but good luck finding out the actual reload and then get it implemented with all those contradicting sources.
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Why then is the turret traverse for the T-series, which is “at least 24 degrees,” 24 in the game and not 40?
Obviously, the minimum declared figure is being set.
The GIAT brochures list 10 rounds per minute. That’s 6 seconds.
I’m okay with 5.9, as long as it’s “less than 6.”
This isn’t required because there’s no contradiction. No official source claims it’s 5.
I wouldn’t have mentioned this if the people above hadn’t started saying it should actually be 4.
Well if that goes through then that hopefully finally gives them a reason and justification to finally fix the leclercs armor problems and give it a round that isnt the second worst in top tier and decides to do absolutely nothing in oblique shots half the time, but something better that it is actually using irl…I mean its objectively already one of the worst top tier mbts, so even if they use reload rate as a soft balancing tool for autoloaders it would be kind of weird of gaijin to be nerfing that with the justification of “french players still do too good in a tank that is worse than a m1a1 one full br step lower in a lot of metrics”. It being played by players with more experience and thus performing better than clickbait players shouldnt exactly justify on nerfing it even further.
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Leclercs are in line with 2A6, so I doubt they’re objectively one of the worst top tier MBTs.
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No they aren’t, they have an autoloaded 5 second reload, much better than the 6 second manual reload of the 2A6
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Tanks aren’t just their reload speed.
Technically hes right.
The leclercs mobility brings it up quite a bit, i do like them.
For example ariete, merkava and CR2 are all worse
if you can tell me what they are objectively better at despite a couple of kph faster top speed and the missing turret basket (and one second faster reload which they wont have anymore if 6 second is their actual true reload speed) i am very interested to hear.
Worse Dart - Check
Worse gun depression - Check
0 armor, on hull and turret - Check
No Commander thermals except for Leclerc SXXI - Check
as soon as they have the same reload like the leo 2a6 and turret baskets that for sure will come for all mbts, trust, theres literally no point to use a 57 ton light tank like the leclerc over any leo2a5+ variant.
Currently Leclercs are just as good as 2A6.
They have better mobility, reload much quicker (even in best case scenario for 2A6), better thermals, no turret basket.
Saying that Leclercs are one of the worst MBTs currently is just disingenuous.
is theat hearsay, your honor?
No, stats are backing up my claims perfectly.
Phew man im happy that all those numerous downsides don’t show in the stats. But good that it has 2/4 kph faster max speed.
Maybe those downsides aren’t as important as you believe they are, which is perfectly shown in stats.
It has higher top speed and better HP/t, so in mobility department it definitely has an advantage.
The best leclerc, The SXXI has 26.7 compared to the leo 2a6’s 25 hp/ton, the last-in-line leclerc azur has abut the same as the leo2a6.
and they have 4 kph faster max speed than leo2a5/6/pso or 2 kph faster than t80BVM or Abrams.
If you think that is worth the same like all the downsides i have listed (and many more in comparison to the abrams - which in return have also some downsides) then idk man. Maybe play them yourself to get a taste of the “balans” in top tier?
atm their only real advantages are some that might be patched out with the turret baskets and a possible nerf to their reload rate.
Super excited for my chieftain reload fixes and the challenger ready rack fixes.
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You and me both boss, you and me both.