At no point have I stated the M1A1 is more armoured than the T80, I stated that it’s more survivable which means when a round penetrates the chances of surviving are lower on the T80.
The M1A1 Click bait has better armour than the M1A1 , we are talking about the M1A1 and the T80U.
Not the M1A1 AIM, not the M1A2 , not the M1A1 Click bait etc.
The M1A1 has worse turret armour than the click bait.
So as it sits RN you’re obsessed with armour, yes the T80 is more armoured than the M1A1, that is literally it’s only advantage bar I think optical magnifications.
AS we can see here the M1A1 HC armour is actually pretty good against the 3BM46 fired by the T80
The M1A1 though has a weak point on its turret face on the right hand side which last I checked 3BM46 can pen.
Actually isn’t much better at all, it has a whole weak point along the UFP at the top where there is no ERA, it has the LFP, it has effectively most the turret as well bar the sections with ERA.
Then a penetration on the T80U will almost always kill it, if not completely disable it.
Yeah but we were talking about the M1A1 no? as it’s the same BR as the T80U.
The M829A1 is still absolutely great for the BR and better than quite a few nations including russias top tier round.
A full BR below it.
Ah yes, while almost every top tier nato MBT bar the Leopards has a reload nearly 2 seconds faster than russian mBTs?
Up unil recently US cas completely dominated.
Naval was largely dominated by other nations, which now granted has the new russian ship rofl stomping.
Still black ammo rack in carrousel, only hit in the side, lmurs, kh38mt (mockup, still no evidence of production), stalingrad just stomped match (45% of build), when russia had a low WR they nerff leos reload, ka52 stomped for years, and more, but you know you will rage bait… aaahh company isnt in russia for political reason, but they still ruskies xD
That is literally RNG for every piece of ammo in game though?
So it’s a non argument
what ?
there are also FnF missiles the same caliber in most trees, between teh american jags and the Chinese ones.
That’s a subject which has been broached wayyy too muchm while KH38MTs are strong the platforms which launch them are no where near as good FM wise as the likes of the euro canards.
Personally I’d like to see more information on them but hey ho.
what does this even mean mate?
When did they nerf the leopards reload? and for what BR bracket?
KA50 not KA52, the KA50 was P2W when it was introduced to the point it destroyed an entire game mode. Wont hear an argument there.
however you are keen to not mention things from naval like when germany got a top tier heavy cruiser prem which was near un beatable.
Or when M1 was added, M1A2s M829A2 etc.
You got a bit of a bias yourself here mate.
Suggest toning it down no one is here to discuss this nonsense.
Plus “ruskies” is a derogatory term eh?
It really depends on the round you are using. LFP shots have been pretty consistent one shot kills for me against any Abrams with most common 11.7-12.7 MBT rounds.
Doesnt that brochure state “mois de 6 seconds”…“less than 6 seconds” or am i tweaking? Less than 6 seconds can basically be anything, well, below 6 seconds. Not sure if im remembering the correct brochure mentioned here and im too lazy to find it scrolling through 100s of posts…“less than 6 seconds” how is that a precise number to implement into the game?
Am I correct in understanding that, by this logic, for T-series tanks, where turret traverse speed is stated as “at least 20-24” and gun elevation as “at least 3.5-4.4,” we could use the numbers 100 and 100?
Or better yet, 1000 and 1000. That would technically qualify as “at least 20.”
However, the game only provides the minimum declared values.
If it is “less then 6 seconds” then why chose 6 seconds as the reload rate? Anyways im just confused as why to take such a vague mention in a brochure which is unclear at what time or for what purpose that thing was published when apparently the snail has had trustable sources of which they based the lowering of its reload some time ago on? Ill not get further involved in this now as it seems just plain pointless for me, but good luck finding out the actual reload and then get it implemented with all those contradicting sources.
Well if that goes through then that hopefully finally gives them a reason and justification to finally fix the leclercs armor problems and give it a round that isnt the second worst in top tier and decides to do absolutely nothing in oblique shots half the time, but something better that it is actually using irl…I mean its objectively already one of the worst top tier mbts, so even if they use reload rate as a soft balancing tool for autoloaders it would be kind of weird of gaijin to be nerfing that with the justification of “french players still do too good in a tank that is worse than a m1a1 one full br step lower in a lot of metrics”. It being played by players with more experience and thus performing better than clickbait players shouldnt exactly justify on nerfing it even further.
if you can tell me what they are objectively better at despite a couple of kph faster top speed and the missing turret basket (and one second faster reload which they wont have anymore if 6 second is their actual true reload speed) i am very interested to hear.
Worse Dart - Check
Worse gun depression - Check
0 armor, on hull and turret - Check
No Commander thermals except for Leclerc SXXI - Check
as soon as they have the same reload like the leo 2a6 and turret baskets that for sure will come for all mbts, trust, theres literally no point to use a 57 ton light tank like the leclerc over any leo2a5+ variant.
Currently Leclercs are just as good as 2A6.
They have better mobility, reload much quicker (even in best case scenario for 2A6), better thermals, no turret basket.
Saying that Leclercs are one of the worst MBTs currently is just disingenuous.
