Germany and USA rightfully because they got nerfed. And Russia so their competitors can get more nerfs.
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Did Russia receive some too?
I like the idea of modules because MBTs are extremely complex war machines filled with hardware, not just crew, ammo and an engine floating on an otherwise hollow box; so I am glad that they are modelling them as such, getting the game closer to being a proper digital interactive encyclopedia and avoiding situations where shells did nothing just because they didn’t directly hit the ammo or the crew.
However, I do have a MAJOR problem with the implementation of these modules… which is that they are not bothering at all to actually and likewise model these MBTs’ armor and survivability features properly.
They are modelling these tanks’ internal weak points without modelling the external strong points meant to protect them; therefore, the net result is an artificial nerf instead of the more nuanced and realistic survivability I would have hoped for when I welcomed the addition of these modules.
Examples of mismodelled, nerfed survivability:
-Merkava Mk.4’s whole miserable existence (armor’s KE barely as effective as rubber-fabric).
-Leclerc’s UFP (whole center of mass less effective than T-64A’s somehow).
-Challenger 2’s missing hull spall liners.
-Abrams’ miserable turret neck (modelled as a 50mm flat plate instead of the 300+mm LOS volumetric piece it should be) and SEP/SEPv2’s missing turret improvements.
-ZTZ-99A’s missing spall liners.
-Leopard 2PL’s missing spall liners.
-Leopard 2PSO’s missing spall liners.
-Type 10’s armor holes.
Ideally, they would BOTH model these modules AND proper armor. That way, penetrating shots are rewarded while non-penetrating shots are punished. Instead, now, practically every shot is rewarded because half the tanks are missing chunks of their armor.
TLDR: give MBTs their modules… but also give them the armor they actually have to protect them.
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Nope
Just non-functional modules, so it feels more realistic would be nice.
agreed, love how gaijin is giving the turret basket to leclerc and TKX but not any russians tank lol, the abrams is literally just a better leclerc now. i’ve grinded france for the leclerc and now right as i get it they are nerfing it! which sucks cuz the leclerc survives quite a lot of shots because of the empty space in the turret + fuel tanks but now its just all gone…
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Leclerc having an autoloader but the same reload time as abrams is just sad now. Less pen, less armor, less crew, good thing france has 2 leopards though.
I still think Chinese tanks will receive it first, but we all know that Russia will be the last to receive it… if it receives it at all.
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Adding this gradually is terrible for the game’s health and balance; either all nations have it or none should. The BMPT in GRB and the Su-30MK2 and MKK destroying the 12.3-13.3 in AirRB aren’t enough of an abomination; they need to further ruin the game to favor Russian vehicles.
I simply can’t understand this type of decision from the gaijin.
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this is going to get really interesting!!!
The Double-Standards.
Russian and Chinese MBTs need fully detailed models with stuff like hydraulic pump, electrical systems, etc and not just the horizontal drive.
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No they aren’t…
No, they just have invisible armor and tiny breach hitboxes because idk.
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Hey uh, if tou think that read the links i posted above. Some dude got data mines showing invisible armor in Russian mbts and their breach hitbox got super shrunk.
idk if this bad translation or what but your response doesn’t make any sense at all.
I really think adding turret baskets to all top-tier vehicles would be a good idea, even though the best thing would be to remove these unnecessarily problematic things.
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That’s if the apfsds round can get past the side ERA first
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Their tanks lack defining details like NATO tanks
Yes, we first need to get through the era blocks, but that would already balance things out a bit (I’m at a stage where every little detail counts). We should also remove the ammo reloading crates. I keep running into players who spam missiles and 30mm shots while constantly reloading.
Sorry for my previous message, it was a bit aggressive. I advise against replying to forum posts after a game with a full premium team against a full BMPT team.
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