Revert ARB Bomber changes

If you’re getting downed by a bomber, that’s on you. The guns are not effective, even manually aimed. If you’re scared of them, that’s a self indictment of your competency and generally disqualifies you from commenting frankly. There is a singular bomber with an effective defensive armament and that is the Tu 4.

You are slower, larger and usually have worse armament than the equivalent fighters of the same BR

Between contrails and markers, any chance of sneaking past is destroyed.

All bombers could easily have their BRs dropped by 1.0 and theyd still be hard aircraft type to play

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sure they dont

That isn’t entirely true. Some bombers are quite well defended, but are still quite weak overall. The only exception is the Ju-288 or IL-28 if you don’t have AAMs. Acting like non British bombers are completely defenceless is as accurate as saying they are too powerful IMO.

This would make some way too good.

My experience while trying to use bombers is the exact opposite, just one or two hits from a cannon instantly rips the tail off or disables the controls in some other way

I’m not expecting them to create a death bubble. What I’m trying to say is that their engagement distance is way too small.
The gunners don’t have to be snipers, but they should open fire at a reasonable distance and not at breathing distance.

Funnily enough, the gunners on turret fighters open fire at much longer distances because they aren’t nerfed to hell

Some… maybe… most… tbh… I dont think so. And even those that shouldnt drop by a full 1.0. Could easily drop 0.3-0.7 without much harm

I’d rather they fix the accuracy of bomber guns so the bullets don’t have worse accuracy than any other gun in the game. It’s quite funny how a Ju-288 can fail to hit a fighter because the bullets all went around.

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Not all of them, but there certainly are many cases of bombers being over-BR’d by varying amounts

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They should just apply the code they added for ships. It does an adequate job of allowing guns to still engage aircraft, without being laser canons

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What are you on about? Every bomber is afflicted with dispersion that is so poor you can’t hit the target until 500m with any number of effective rounds, aside the Tu 4. Whilst being such large targets that you can reasonably engage them out to 2km. British bombers just have to suffer the absolute most. Ju 288’s defensive armament is positioned in a less than useful manner, but you’re correct that it is decently defended. But you also won’t need it on account of it being a schnellbomber. IL 28 is poorly defended, but benefits from being at a rating where the speed it has actually can outdo much that would chase it.

This is such an hilarious take.

Its the same as saying all fighters have to do is press left click.

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I would argue that’s not inaccurate for a number of fighters.

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clearly you never played against a 288 or qing6 that knows how to aim, even a tu4

no clue why a 0.7 monthly warrior thinks he has any room to call me bad here.

far more than one

it’s correct already, swiveling guns are affectes by recoil and fixed are not

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no, they have to aim too, you should try it too instead of wanting 2km ball of death ai gunners

I know those situations very well :(
I’m not gonna hide it, I’m one of those guys that likes using the Ju 288 and I actually work a lot with the turret, but the accuracy really is abyssmal

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Yup, the artificial spraying of the guns is kinda ridiculous…

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A 288 is the exception, not the rule and even then… They arent hard to kill if you can aim

its like saying the Zero or Spitfire is a good turn fighter, therefore every single prop fighter is a good turn fighter.

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Aside that y’know, I have. Even made a caveat for the Tu 4. But go off, sunshine.

I play ground attackers. Generally play aircraft primarily for ground attack, find air to air to be generally mind numbing. I’d say calling you bad for getting downed by the classes of aircraft I’ve notable familiarity with is a pretty fair call :p

Not to mention, if you’re taking the game that seriously that you care about that front, you really should not be scared of a bomber lol

(To highlight how unseriously I take this, my favourite air to air platform is a frogfoot)

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you forgot bombers can shoot behind them and aim without maneuvering
fighters need to fly toward the bomber’s guns to shoot them

shooting bots isnt skill

the problem: most will fly to orbit or run away all game after dropping, so you HAVE to shoot the down early. however i do not want to risk any damage from them having half decent turret aim because often it forces you to rtb if you get hit
bomber turrets may be outright overpowered, but i will call you bad for being unable to aim them here

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Man, at this rate, as a joke
Removal of bombers in this game will be easiest and the perfect solution :/

Gaijin got scared of the 2km deathball of Tu-4

So decided to take the eyeballs of every gunners off
And initiate the SARH missile threat against them
While removed airfield destruction.

Maybe we didn’t have our rights to breathe in-game at all.