Now that it’s out, are we allowed to talk about it?
For example if the document showed that the liner covers entire fighting compartment, and some people saw the post, could they still tell us without getting in trouble?
I don’t think so no. Classification stuff is a bit weird in general.
If you’re talking and referencing a classified doc, please don’t, it gets gaijin in hot water. If ofc you aren’t referencing whatever doc it is, go for it. That said I would be cautious about posting anything rn.
I wouldn’t bother mate, he posted a photo claiming it’s a chally 2 turret when it’s a leopard 2
Now the spall liners of the T-90M don’t work, and the spall liners have made the Leopard 2A7V more overpowered
they dont work because the t90m is compact like other t-series tanks unlike leos which are huge
actually, the T-90M is bugged
the blowout panels dont work properly thats the only thing im aware of
i leaked Panzer III Documents
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problem is simple: apdsfs doesn’t do sufficient spalling, and spall liner is too effective. So nerf spall liner and increase apdsfs spalls, over. And don’t forget the leclerc spall liner, it’s a bit unique (lol it’s french) but it has one.
It very much does, and arguably does too much.
You defend it constantly. Everyone has seen it and you can’t pretend otherwise.
Weird since the kindest thing I’ve said about Soviet equipment is that there’s a lack of training to utilize the equipment.
That’s the only defense I’ve ever stated.
Why do people insist on pretending that the T-90M is the only tank with spall liners? You are deliberately ignoring 4 L2A6/7 series tanks that are AT LEAST as powerful as the T-90M all with full spall liners, just so you can get on you soap box and yell a bout “Russian Bias”. the L2A7V was introduce with them at the same time AND they where added to the Strv-122/ PLSS/ B+ and all L2s from A5+ have spall lining in the turret roof.
Adding in the liner for the T-90M makes sense as its a new 3D modal, why not add it while they make it, rather than spend extra money going back and redoing it later, sure maybe they should have held off on it until they had more ready to go, but give that any penetrating shot still hits the ammo it makes next to no difference in my experience, maybe 1 in every 5 need a follow up shot. As for the L2A7, its basically the same other L2 hulls, so make it and click and drag.
Look argue all you want about how OP you think Russian tanks are, but I am not going to take you seriously if your first point is the blatant lie that “ONLY THE T90-M HAS SPALLLINERS”.
Initially, the T-90M was going to be the only tank with spall liners. Due to the backlash, Gaijin added them to the Leo 2AV7 and Strv 122+.
Challenger 2s too
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What ever their initial plans where is irrelevant to my point, the patch released with 7 tanks (I forgot about the Swedish Strf. 9040c and Lvkv. 9040c) with full spall liners, only 1 of which is Russian (And also note I am completely ignoring the 5 Challenger 2s with liners on the UFP, the L2A5, the German and Finish L2a6s and the L2 PSO that have turret roof liners and the M3A3 as they are only partial liners). That’s 17 tanks with at least some spall protection, 16 of which are NOT Russian. And yet 4 months later people are STILL complaining that “only the T90M has one” or that “only Russians tanks have spall liners” etc… Which is, and always was, completely false.
where are people saying that Russia is the only nation with spall liners? After the patch, I’ve seen people complaining that Russia was going to be the only one with them
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well happens if russias first tank with spall liner is the t90m
Meanwhile nato tanks have it since ages
but that was IGRNORED until they could show of a RUSSIAN TANK with said feature before adding it…
So what is your point here ?
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