If you’re questioning that, that tells me you’re confused by college level English.
You’re asking me to dumb down my English for you?
@Necronomica
As proven with your screenshots, they are equal in weakspots that harm crewmembers.
I’m pretty sure being able to take out the engine of Leopard 2 is better for some players, but I ain’t shooting anything back of the idler wheel on Leopard 2 cause I want the crew fragged.
You need to take a break from the forums because I see you’ve just been spending the day trying to get people to argue with themselves.
I asked because you managed to read his comment of
As him saying NATO vehicles are Russian tanks. How does that even happen?
I’ve taken College level English as well. Except my question was a genuine question instead of an insult.
Funny, cuz T-90M can’t fire Vacuum 1, the modified autoloader is there for 3bm60, 660mm is the maximum length of the shells that T-90Ms can fire.
that’s not your original statement though.
you said:
Nothing about what you damage if you pen.
Look at the total area that is a guaranteed pen on both vehicles and then think about shooting in movement and not being able to cherry pick weakspots. You are far more likely to pen the Strv 122A than you are to pen the T-90M. especially with the ERA mod on (can’t test this though since i don’t own the tank).
Pardon me but it looks like the Strv122 poses larger weak spots than thr T90M, no? The breech for both of them seems about the same but the hull weakspots are so much more larger for the Strv122
Leclerc apparently uses Teflon, Fibre Glass and Carbon Fibres, so that’s yet another type of spall liners
Not only that but the 122 is also a larger tank making the pennable area physically even bigger in comparison to T-90M. even if they would happen to have the same percentage of pennable area (which they don’t) the total area is bigger on the 122.
The T-90M is smaller, so the armored portions of T-90M end up equaling that of Strv 122 when you take their size differences into account.
And in the gunners optic, imagine the turret of T-90M being the combined upper hull & turret of Strv 122.
That’s how I imagine weakspots on tanks, then it becomes instinctual after practice.
It’s why BVM is the easiest tank for me to kill at top BR with Strv 122 being the hardest.
Now that Soviets & Germans are getting Strv 122 equivalent tanks, I’ll actually have to finally get more competent there.
USA might as well with Abrams historical reports finally being valid.
I’m sorry, but are on some kind of mind altering medication ? First of all, the relative area of weak spots of the BVM is smaller than on the STRV122 has shown above. Secondly, the BVM is a smaller target than the 122, meaning that the weak spots are actually even smaller. How did you end up with the armoured portion of the 90M equalling the 122 ? Have you basic knowledge of geometry ? And, we are all comparing the 90M (and BVM) to the 122, which ids the most armoured western MBT. It has to be considered that all other nations have less armor, from the Okay-ish armor of the 2A6 and M1A2 sep (contrary to their whining mains), to the relatively bad Type10 and Leclerc, not even mentioning the Ariete.
that’s not how it works. if its larger, the area is larger making it easier to hit it.
if you have a target at a shooting range and make that target 25% bigger its going to be easier to hit it right?
even worse is the “spottiness” of the pennable area on the T-90M. at longer ranges you have spread so that makes it even less likely to hit an area you are able to pen, if you miss 10-20cm to one side you might hit an area you cant pen, while on the 122 its a large whole area so if you miss by even 50cm you are still within the area that you are able to pen.
Bro is trolling aint no way Strv122 is harder to kill than a T90M
lol BVM’s turret weakspots are identical to that of M1A1 HC.
No, I mean physically identical size.
Tho the ERA goes away after one shot & BVM’s turret becomes an Ariete’s/T-80B’s turret.
T-80BVM’s turret is an Ariete’s/T-80B’s turret with ERA attached.
T-90M’s turret is a T-90A’s turret with improvements.
@Torpid_Hunter
No one said that 122 is harder to kill than T-90M.
I’ll likely find them equal.
BVM mantlet is far smaller than that of the M1s, and eats shots far better than them. M1 turret ring is also a weak spot the width of the entire tank that allows me to kill all Abrams using a 30mm very easily (spoiler alert I can’t kill any Russian MBTs above 10.3 with that same 30mm APFSDS). The BVM turret is about twice as small as the M1. You really seem confused to me right now.
T90 also does not even have the weak spots on the roof to kill the crew (as it sits lower than the BVM).
As for the ERA going away after one shot, that also gives time for the T series to locate, aim and kill the enemy target before that guy can reload, especially with the great turret traverse speed of the BVM and 90M
well you kind of did, not litterally, but might as well mean the same
and since the 122 is the most armored NATO equivalent MBT all other NATO MBT must be easier to kill than it right?
No, the BVM’s non-ERA protected area around the gun is identical to the M1A1’s mantlet sir.
Granted, the T-80BVM’s turret is further back in that screenshot so it might look slightly smaller than it should but it’s the same area.
The Abrams turret being bigger doesn’t mean much when you can only pen the same area as a BVM’s turret weakspots.
Do the same with the Leclerc, type 10 and Ariete, they aren’t any better. And then we have German and US mains claiming their tanks are the worst of the entire game. Truly sad that most of the conversation about armor issues revolves around the MBTs that still stand on the podium
Yea, but i put the Cr3 as the new and fresh addition that is the top of the food chain or some other bull****
We never did, but just like every other community we want our tanks as close to realistic as possible.
Specialy in germanys case there is the comparison to the Strv122, and the Leo2A7V , should just be better then that
Yeah, I should not put everyone in the same bag, but come on, I had a Quick Look at the SepV2 and 2A7V, and some people are pretty much like that
