Will we receive information about potential changes to Tornado WTD61 before the update?
And is ground battle vehicles top BR increase planned or not?
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What about other top tier MBTs and their anti spall liners? Like Merkava mk4, Type 10, Leclerc, M1A2, ZTZ’s? Using anti spall liners in military vehicles has become a standard even with lightly armored vehicles. Is it due to lack of information? If some country doesn’t want to provide info about this, then that doesn’t mean most modern MBTs should generate as much spall as if the interior plate was just an RHA plate that generates as much spalling as a WW2 tank, add it for the sake of balance then change it after obtaining enough information about it.
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The best approach is not add the spall liner mechanic until every toptier nation had at least one vehicle with such modification, or not add at all, crew snipe is not fun
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@Smin1080p
Sorry for the ping, is there any statement on the way from the devs to the numerous Leclerc bug reports that would apply to the new major update ?
Thx for your work.
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Sorry to say this, But Challenger is taking this update. You can try next one
does the Lvkv 9040C also get the spall liner or just the Strf 9040C?
Going to have to agree with TheEuropeanCanadian and say spall liners shouldn’t even be implemented into the game at all. It’s going to add an unfair, unbalanced, and unnecessary RNG mechanic.
Anti-Spalling protection have roots going as far back as 1917-1918 when early French and British tank crews were issued a sort of chain mail to help reduce the effects spalling and fragmentation. Say hello to:
Considering all of the different ways that tank developers and engineers went about protecting crews from the very deadly issue that is spalling, it just isn’t feasible for Gaijin to incorporate all of them to the sheer number of tanks that had them. We as players are capable of recognizing tanks had an issue and purpose for combating spalling, but for the sake of balance, they shouldn’t be implemented for anyone. No one is better or worse off if we don’t introduce another RNG mechanic into ground battles.
I’m aware that they will probably get implemented regardless because not doing so would effectively invalidate all of the effort players have made to get their vehicle of choice a spall liner, but it’s nonetheless disappointing to see a mechanic coming to the game that it 110% doesn’t need. As many people have pointed out…realism doesn’t always equal fun. I expect disagreement and I respect it all the same.
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dorime, ameno
What about type 10, Leclerc and Merkava?
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If Abrams will get its armor, there is no reason why the Leopard 2A7V can’t get his armor.
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@Smin1080p going by Rheinmetalls Video, there is indeed no Liner in the turret
you can clearly see the weldings inside the turret. but it was stated often enough that the turret is not the final thing that will be delivered to the British army
here is the video for reference
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So no news about the 2A7V… This is the new Leopard 2 PSO INCIDENT maybe?
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Swedish trials were 30 years ago how it that relevant to tank with different configuration.
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tbh probably wont be as bad as the current nightmare that is volumetric and over-pressure mechanics. and tbh i think people are overreacting about spall liners(somewhat understandably) and personally I am waiting till the patch hits live servers to make a full opinion on it
I went over this already. We are not sure if it is spall liner or no.
Leclerc
merkava
cant find anything on the inside of the Type-10 only Pics of MFDs
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No mention about Leclercs UFP? Nothing?
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Okay now spall liner for the other half of vehicles that need them. CV90 family, Abrams etc. Half the job is done, now the other half.
It’s nice to see DU is being looked into but it’s kinda like why mention it. Just add it or don’t.
You can really feel the burden of this being a WW2 game with modern vehicles shoved into it. The Chally 2 for sure has shown how well that’s doing since it was implemented.
Gripen change is great ofc, how it was going in before was devoid of any reasoning bar stretching content out. Also 12.7? Can we stop creeping the BR up 0.3 at a time, just decompress it already.