Yes, I have used R-27ER, it reduces my KDR substantially compared to meta IR missiles.
Su-27 isn’t going to be an easy jet to play.
Mirage 4000, Gripen [UK & Sweden], F-16C, and F-16D will remain the easiest jets to play as people don’t have to worry about doing radar locks.
F&F weaponry is always superior to semi-active radar missiles right now.
Back before we had all-aspect flare resistant missiles SARHs held some purpose.
Dude idk what to tell you, if you think the Su-27 and MiG-29 aren’t easy to play then that’s just a colossal skill issue. Not to mention those jets get the best IR missiles in the game with HMD to boot…
Russian jets don’t get AIM-9Ms…
And large amount of flares + easy airframe = easy.
Su-27 isn’t an easy airframe, it’s a slightly worse F-14B in airframe performance.
And Mig-29 loses to everything, especially the SMT which loses to even 11.3s.
There are 5+ jets superior in making survival easier for players than Su-27, which is the largest jet coming which is why Su-27/J-11 are lower priority for me as the jets I’m going for are all easier to use and more unique.
So what about Abrams Spall Liner?
AIM-9M’s don’t have thrust vectoring
Not necessarily, you can’t flare guns and when you have a plane with maneuverability and AOA like the MiG-29 and Su-27, you can’t ignore that.
What are you smoking?
Skill issue.
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My personal opinion on this is that ER wasn’t a problem at all back when Mig-29 had it, it was a classic thing of less but better, the americans having more SARH but with worse stats and russians having better ones but in less quantity.
Now Su-27 comes into play with a whopping 6 of them, so not only are they better than the competition but also have a bigger number of them.
Which is kind of a problem, mind saying I have russian and france top tier, and up to F-4E on america as of now
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Not to mention you can bring four R-73’s on top of that…
That too, yes, didnt say anything because F-15A has 4x4 Sparrows and 4x4 Sidewinders (IIRC) so IR missile quantity is the same and the quality of the missile is really similar (Less load but better IRCCM on 9M and the opposite on R-73)
But yeah, I get your point
IRCCM > thrust vectoring.
Su-27 isn’t fast enough to use guns against the meta airframes.
You can get into Mig-29G and I’ll beat you every time in F-16AJ, which is going to be middle of the pack with Gripen & Mirage 4000 ahead of it.
F-16AJ is also superior against Su-27 in the dogfight.
Su-27 brings 6 R-73s, not 4.
Anyone bringing 4 has a skill issue.
Honestly even a Br increase to 12.7 isn’t enough. Give me a reason other than Russian bias they would add in an Su-27 in a matchmaker where it can see F-4’s and MiG-21’s.
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It can’t see any Mig-21s.
MiG-23’s then. The MF really can’t compete
It can’t see Mig-23MF either, that’s also 11.0.
As for threats. Gripen is the biggest threat to 11.3s.
How is the Gripen the biggest threat? It has 4 shit SARH AAM’s and has 6 short range AAM’s. If you stay more than 10km away from it you’re fine.
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Personal preference ig. I’ve found that thrust vectoring will get me more kills, and you can reliably flare AIM-9M’s if you know what you’re doing.
I was operating under the assumption of 6 ER’s and 4 73’s, coming off of the other guy’s comment. I was rocking 4 ER’s, 2 ET’s, and 4 73’s on the dev server though. ET’s are a whole other issue, reliable kills at 7+ miles, no problem.
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Thrust vectoring will get you more kills against unaware targets.*
@FlyingOstridge
You can’t stay away from Gripen, it goes mach 1.2 on the deck sipping fuel. It’s faster than an Su-27 in acceleration too.
I played all the new jets on dev, Mirage 4000 is the scariest cause it can just outright dodge R-73s, and Gripen is the 2nd scariest due to its countermeasure count.
Try a drag race between the FGR.2 and the Gripen. I’m not saying it will beat it I just want to know which is faster with better acceleration.
Dev server closed yesterday & I haven’t seen indication that it was returned.
When the update goes live I’ll play the FGR.2 and see how I do. Wish me luck.
Good luck, I hope 12.7 comes and 12.3s get moved up, 12.0s moved up, and some 11.3s moved up, and so forth.
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