also a option, but i think that one major problem of the module mechanic is that it reward bad shots exactly bc of the spall… for crew and electronics modules yes, keep the spall damage, but others (like horizontal/vertical driver, autoloaders, turret ring, etc) idk…
Why? look at photos of leopard baskets. Its like a big bothing. When the turret drive or the ring is missed, traverse shouldn’t be impaired.
Damn bruh, you still arguing about some nonsense.
man your response says it all
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The matter is already closed + i ain’t reading all that just to prove something that’s literally wrong.
Isn’t that what you’re doing?
You all begged and barted for the autoloaders to be realistic and get nerfed, it’s called karma.
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Begged? That’s literally your domain.
Also i wasn’t happy at all with the autoloader addition, infact i wasn’t even aware something like that was added untill i shot a t80 and he was supposed to die from that shot straight to the ammo, but nah he survived and shot me and i died, he repaired and carried on.
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It has to be noted that russian tanks are still able to traverse their turrets, even when the autoloader gets knocked off. This is a huge imbalance. If the turret basket is supposed to jam the turret, why is the much more spacious autoloader not jamming the turret as well?
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If that happens they would cry to Gaijoob and instantly revert it, just like what they did the AGM-65D it was so good, it was nerfed because it made the Russians to actually start trying, but when it comes to KH38MT naah it was untouchable.
Now you can spawn in SU-34-30SM instantly launch 6 missiles you get 6 confirmed kills, you go back rearm and then do the same, SPAAs can’t touch you and all this is balanced to them but when it comes to some real issue like the turret ring, they somehow get triggered.
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They could reduce the range of KH’s to force all those Suchois into SPAA range. Or make them just laser guided as they did with Brimstones. In case of the Brims they didn’t even waited to see how it impacts live server, but nerfed it prematurely. Two worlds.
Dunno what the point is, to have a competitive MMO game where you might just spawn, fire 6 F&F missiles in quick succession for multikills? And no one has the range nor time window to prevent that. Its like Godmode light. I know its a ru game, but lately its a bit too much.
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But in this forum they gaslight you and acting like Russia isn’t the best.
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Its not closed at all?
You just cant argue the points anymore.
The “i aint reading all that” is not because you dont want to. I reckon its because you genuinely cannot read all that and understand each point as its written to you.
It doesnt get much more basic than that.
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If that happens they would cry to Gaijoob and instantl
Can do the same in the F15E, rafale, and even typhoon infact ive actively seen more F15s and Typhoons succeed
Who is they ?
So you suggested that we 100% take away the advantage of having an autoloader? on top of having three crews instead of four and the longest reload timer in its respective br? how is that balance? also they modelled the rammer which is located inside the turret between the turret crew, so any penetrating hit to the turret will often result in rammer getting damage, and its link to the autoloader cassette, which means they both goes out of service when hit, before the addition you only lose one crew member when hit and 100% can shoot back, now turret hit you are likely lose the ability to return fire and that is a nerf one way or another. Not to mention this usually happens right after you fire off a shot, while still reloading you take hits to the turret, autoloader is now damaged before you load another shell. Some of you here didn’t pay enough attention to what was happening
And someone is not paying attention to others’ experience shared under this topic. Indeed tanks like Abrams have shorter reloading time, but such design makes reloading harder after reloader is dead. Unlike autoreloader which can be repair at anywhere, new crew can only be ‘repaired’ in zones, not to mention the (protection) to other crew. What I mentioned all the time is shot on their hull, not turret. Plus,almost all mbts’ shooting will be disabled(or they are destroyed) if the turrets are truly penetrated, not only those with autoloader. Thus in any cases you had better run and repair. Now, once M1 and Leo are penetrated, they no longer aim and fight back because of a 100% broken turret, unlike USSR tanks which can shoot back even if they autoreloader is damaged. If someone is pay attention I believe many similar examples can be found.
Anyway, I think we should talk more about turret on Leo and M1, not whether autoloader is good or not.
Lol it’s you who decided to brought up the t series and play it off like their autoloader isn’t a nerf compare to their previous state, I wouldn’t even want to comment except NATO mains just keep saying things that isn’t true. You can choose to leave that autoloader part out and fight for the removal of basket or seperate turret ring part without suggesting another nerf for autoloader module, which is annoying enough to play these days.
People tend to notice things that are bothering them. Kh38 spam is MUCH MUCH more active
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When deformed autoloaders would prevent turret traverse as well well as ingame turret baskets, there would be kind of equality. But right now russian tanks have a free shot, cause they’re still able to aim and to farm a free kill.
Also keep in mind, when a loader gets taken out, he’s gone. The reload cycle is aborted, has to start new and is much delayed. While the autoloader just can be repaired. The ru tank remains operational with one shell loaded. This new mechanic around the turret basket is especially horrible on all these close range maps. You lose tank after tank just cause you can’t aim anymore, baskets always tend to get taken out, even with minor damage. It takes ages to repair and ru players easily use the time to rush your position. Cause they know, its a free lol kill. Maps are too small for 30-40 sec rep times to be able to shot back. Sometiimes I just don’t understand how I lost my basket, when in fact just my track was hit etc…