Reshuffles to the Great British Ground Vehicle Research Tree

[GTP_Paulie-psn]

Just make nation folders already. Cramming multiple nations in one tree doesn’t work. And splitting any one nation in to multiple trees is a total joke.

[PantherBait]

Does it have maws?

[lisavita]

i think gaijin you don’t need to make sure there are only 3 vehicles within every level. We can have exceptions.

[Sebbo_the_Plebbo]

The seemingly obvious 4th option is to just leave our rank 4 tank destroyers untouched and just add the AS90 in to rank 5? Plenty of other trees have 7.0 vehicles at rank 5, the Swingfire is our only TD there currently so there will be no jostling for space, and it will lead to a natural place for a foldered later AS90 like the Braveheart.

[Caernarvon02]

Me who doesnt want more USSR trash in the british tree

[Jarms]

Great Britain Extended Ground Forces Tree

Biggest changes: I’ve removed all Commonwealth vehicles from the tree. The only vehicles remaining are British - both domestic and export, and lend-lease vehicles. I’ve turned all the low tier Cruisers into Mediums, as there’s now a dedicated light line. Some individual classification changes to other vehicles, for example all Valentines are now Heavy Tanks and the Avenger is a Tank Destroyer again.

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Here’s a better idea Gaijin, we remove all the Commonwealth vehicles and make them a separate tech-tree. Britain has so many vehicles that my tree still isn’t complete. Most of us Australian’s and Canadian’s just want all our equipment in the same place anyway. Commonwealth tree fixes that instantly.

Constantly cramming other nations into the British tree is simply removing space away from domestic options.

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Edit: Just saw the Conway is now a medium tank. While I dislike that, I can understand it. Doctrinally at least, it is a tank. Very much in the same way the Charioteer is considered a tank and not a tank destroyer. The Conway is called “Tank, Heavy Gun, 120mm, Conway” whereas something like the FV4005 is called “Heavy Anti-Tank, SP, No 1.”

I just wish Gaijin were more consistent. Why is the Avenger a medium tank? It’s an SP version of the A30, which means it’s a tank destroyer. Why is the Caernarvon a heavy tank? It’s classified and used as a medium tank. Why are the Valentine’s medium tanks when they’re infantry tanks? The closest equivalent would be a heavy tank, and that’s exactly what every other infantry tank is in WT.

[AydanL44_Hunter]

Hopefully there will be mostly indigenous stuff, but that’s pretty uncertain knowing Gaijin

[Caernarvon02]

Id prefer british stuff, canadian and australian second.

Indian equipment is mostly at the bottom of the list of what i want to see, other than their harrier, providing they make the harriers accurate and not suck

[l2ulan]

Very true, UK Rank V TD line has only a single vehicle and would be an ideal space for AS90 rather than cramming it into Rank IV.

[KhorneFlakez1337]

Mmmmh yes, gimme more slop

Delicious Tunguska and Shilka

Gimme more of them T-72s and T-90s and don’t forget those BMP-2s!

[Caernarvon02]

@KhorneFlakez1337

Delicious Tunguska and Shilka

Maybe they will get moved to a fairer BR if we get them

@KhorneFlakez1337

Gimme more of them T-72s and T-90s and don’t forget those BMP-2s!

gags

[l2ulan]

Sounds like Conway is a heavy tank to me.

[Jarms]

Nah, cause Conqueror is “Tank, Heavy No. 1, 120 mm gun”.

The difference is Conway is just Heavy Gun.

[l2ulan]

Without wishing to be obstinate I haven’t seen the full name anywhere but the TE article. It could be incorrect, or missing a comma.

It’s not referred to as an SP, the usual giveaway for a British TD.

[KhorneFlakez1337]

@Jarms

Edit: Just saw the Conway is now a medium tank. While I dislike that, I can understand it. Doctrinally at least, it is a tank. Very much in the same way the Charioteer is considered a tank and not a tank destroyer. The Conway is called “Tank, Heavy Gun, 120mm, Conway” whereas something like the FV4005 is called “Heavy Anti-Tank, SP, No 1.”

I just wish Gaijin were more consistent. Why is the Avenger a medium tank? It’s an SP version of the A30, which means it’s a tank destroyer. Why is the Caernarvon a heavy tank? It’s classified and used as a medium tank. Why are the Valentine’s medium tanks when they’re infantry tanks? The closest equivalent would be a heavy tank, and that’s exactly what every other infantry tank is in WT.

I don’t think using each nations individual designations to determine the class of a vehicle in-game would be a good idea

A lot of vehicles that currently are considered as light or medium tanks would end up becoming TDs and especially Britains tree would lose a lot of light and medium tanks a lower BRs

Stuff like the Stryker, Booker and Type 16 would become TDs, as they are classified as Assault Guns IRL

The Crusader tanks would become mediums and as you mentioned, the Valentines would become heavies and the Avenger a TD

Thanks to the spawncost system this would be a nightmare for many nations and losing light tanks would hurt a lot

The current class system isn’t perfect, but “historical” classifications would be even worse

[spartinwarrior64]

i think it could work but, gaijin…

[KhorneFlakez1337]

There definitely is a lot of room left and by making more use of folders that room could be used even more effectively

It would get pretty messy over time, but that’s going to happen to all the larger TTs at some point, unless Gaijin completely reworks the TT system

[Jarms]

They’re already hitting that point now in the British tree. Where’s any British light tank/armoured car between 3.3 to 7.3? That space has been taken up by South African vehicles.

[hjnbnb]

Another reshuffle? Must be a New Zealand subtree!! 🇳🇿 rahhhh New Zealand rahhhhh

[KhorneFlakez1337]

Hitting what point?

There is plenty of room for British light vehicles to be added