its not anymore american than the tech tree skink it still has the canadian flag on the background
also pacific?? nothing ever mentions it being anything to do with the pacific
also the US not using it or wanting it is not the point, it is a tank that can reasonably go into the US tech tree which fills a gap
incorrect, as i have already mentioned
Do you see the wooden planks on the side? Was never done by the Canadians. Was only done in the Pacific.
who cares, not the point of the pack, also field mods were very much done outside of the pacific, patton famously hated it
gaijin have stated that these packs are not modeled off of any specific vehicle or standard, theyre just made to look realistic enough and look cool
I would’ve preferred a Wirbelwind over the Ostwind Ost II for the German pack. It’s honestly a better SPAA imo and it makes more sense.
People who care about historical accuracy.
yeah good for you, unfortunately you are not the largest demographic in warthunder
also
Cool. Still welcome to my opinion.
Also, now show me the historical photo of a Skink with wooden planks?
never said you werent
did you read the thing?
its not based off of any single vehicle
drawing inspiration from several photos doesnt mean all those photos are of specifically the skink, many were likely just normal m4s
Could have used the one with the quick-fix applique, like the M4A2 has in-game. Would at least be based on something real (even if I hate the fact the US got the Skink).
why?
it is based on something real, just clearly not as real as you wanted, though mind you I think you mostly just have a personal dislike for the skink more than anything else, considering you havent complaned about the other oddities in those packs
Why the US shouldn’t have the Skink:
Of course I do, but I also care about historical accuracy and Gaijin loves to say how realistically detailed their vehicle models are. You have to hold them to this standard.
show me some that actually fit the game and would be 5.3-5.7
the US tech tree had a gap of 3.3 BRs from 4.0 to 7.3
adding new tanks takes time, adding a ‘copypaste’ doesnt
there are already canadian vehicles in the US tech tree
the grizzly is a license production of an american tank
not just the US didnt want it, theres a reason only like 3 were made
also the US not wanting it is irrelevant because its not being represented as an american vehicle in the game, its a canadian vehicle, it just sits in the US tech tree
they still are, if the skink were more widely used it wouldve been very likely more modifications similar to this to appear, plus the point of these packs is so that gaijin can sell multi-vehicle packs (which is a good idea that I personally support) while not having to be accused of ‘copypaste’ due to the unique cosmetic modelling, just adding some welded on bits of armour to the side doesnt make for a very visually unique vehicle
3 complete vehicles were made, more turrets were produced than that. The reason they axed the project is because the Allies had complete air dominance at that point. No need for more SPAA projects.
Here’s a list of just 20mm US SPAA’s, none of these are in game.
T10E1 Half-track:
3 Elco turreted vehicles:
T85:
M114A2:
M113 (unsure of official designation):
Baseless claim on the Skink getting wooden planks if it saw service. Just look at all the deployed Crusader AA Mk III’s, which were used by Canadians and the Free Polish. No wooden planks there.
almost all of those examples would not be 5.3, almost all would be lower
even the ones with 4x20mm would probably be lower than the skink as they are open top
and you complain about historical accuracy but youre advocating for an m113 to be added at such a low BR? what happened to this?
Please point to any BR’s I suggested in my list.
4.3 (tcm20 exists already)
reasonably around 4.7-5.0 low protection, similar to the hanomag but with a bit higher firepower
probably 5.0, similar to skink but open top
5.7-6.7
but also defeats your point of asking for historical accuracy
sure unique additions are nice but adding unique vehicles takes time, especially when materials and statistics for some of these would be hard to obtain
the skink was added because it was quick to add and it was needed, and it has reasonable arguments to be in the US tree
Above 6.0 is already starting into the early Cold War era.
And those are? Because I’ve yet to see any. Just US mains claiming the world despite having nothing to do with it.
And no, “it’s a Sherman” doesn’t count as at the end of the day, it was a conversion kit that made it to full production but wasn’t wanted by the US in any way. And a Sherman, the only relation to the US is the original blueprints.
“It fills a gap,” a gap that could have been filled with domestic vehicles rather than one rejected during development.
Hiding behind a Canadian flag and the reason why Canada isn’t allowed a HOME doesn’t make a FAKE vehicle real. Just for reference, all the active Canadians pushed back against the US Skink. It might as well fly the US flag, would make it 100% more of a real vehicle.
it being a grizzly, and modern US canada relations
already talked about that, have you considered reading?
It also in the British tree too, the US only got it because gaijin knew you lot would kick off.
And it was part of an exchange, We rightfully got the RAM so it made sense to also split the Skink
