Remove the airfield default spawn in bad weather

Sorry, but advocating for a bad change will just make this game worse. There’s always WoT

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How is it a bad change? Literally your only arguments have been:
“Italy bad”
“Muh 5 second longer queue times”
“No one will play Combined Arms”
“Not wealism”
And “you’re just a CAS hater”

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My argument is that TO is simply a bad idea.

Your argument is that you don’t want to die avoidable deaths to CAS

Tell me how a Comet can kill a F4U-4 or a Yak-9K or a F6F-5

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Says the one that thinks the extremely avoidable SPAAs at 8.0-10.7 are OP

I’m sure a WW2 plane could still fly around but it obviously wouldn’t be as effective as a modern strike fighter

By staying near a friendly SPAA and baiting the Corsair or Hellcat

Maybe, but without some radical overhauls to the AF locations, you may end up in the worst situation where you have something heavy and slow trying to take off from the AF and just getting spawn killed.

At top tier, there are some maps where the AFs are in range of Pantsir let alone an IRIS-T SLM.

Heck in GSB, where AF Spawn is forced. I’ve had a match before where I was maintaining air superiority in a Typhoon and the moment I got an Su-34 RWR ping, I swung round, pointed my radar at the AF and unloaded hell onto the guy before he had even retracted his landing gear.

Never going to happen. The TO crowd is niche’, nonexistent and has never made a cohesive argument for their case in over 6 years. Additionally, this isn’t World of Tanks - This is War Thunder. The very idea of WT gameplay is Combined Arms.

Dying to CAS sucks. So does dying to other tanks. Everyone playing GRB dies more to tanks than CAS and the stats over the years have proven that fact entirely.

The days you don’t want to play Combined Arms - Go do something else, because Gaijin isn’t going to put TO into the game ever. There’s no incentive or benefit to such a thing, period.

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Even flying is a challenge with certain older models.

All a Bf109F4 has is altitude, airspeed, turn & bank, manifold pressure, compass and RPM.

It’s lacking key components of IFR flight scan (attitude indicator & vertical speed indicator).

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It’s definitely workable, but I hate it.

If War Thunder is combined arms, where is the combined arms element in Air Battles? Seems like planes get to invade every other aspect of the game, but I don’t see tanks and boats together. Not very combined armsy.

A good hill, decent aim and some luck. I’ve killed many an aircraft not only with rooftop and/or coaxial MGs but also with the main cannon. It can be done if the situation is just right, but trying to use that as some kind of " Gotcha " for the TO argument is foolish, so let’s stop that.

Also, if it’s so niche, why is every poll on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Reddit (Ew), and even on here support TO mode overwhelmingly? Seems like the only niche idea is a Combined Arms mode.

Plenty of examples of aircraft performing CAS in weather conditions that normally aircraft would never enter

If there is troops on the ground that need air support. a CAS pilot will usually break those rules to provide it. Sure this is a rather modern example, but given 90% of the CAS complaints are from the higher BRs. I think it still tracks.

You also have things like the FA2s taking off from Carriers and AFs that other aircraft wouldnt dare to normally take off from.

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Given enough skill difference, you can kill any plane within a 1.0 BR range on your own in air RB and air sb.

Given enough skill difference, you can kill any tank (Light, medium, heavy TD) with your own (Light, medium, heavy, TD) in ground RB and SB.

There is no amount of skill difference that lets you kill a Corsair or Hellcat or Yak9K in a comet unless that plane crashes into your and was already dead but you got kill credit due to clipping them with your .303.

The ground elements are AI controlled, but they are still very much present and can have an impact on the match.

That is why one of the objectives is to destroy the ground targets. Air battles are not solely TDM - People just have the tendency to treat it as TDM.

Also, good luck trying to take on a battleship with a tank.

Dang it Morvan, I was trying to waste their time. They are not smart enough to come up with that.

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Ah yes, the “combined arms” of air battles is beating up on howitzers, pillboxes, and “SPAAs” that doe no damage when they hit you. Very well implemented.

Because this is the only forum where you have to be a legitimate and active player of War Thunder to even say anything.

Everywhere else you can be an absolute random who has never even played the game and you can say whatever you want without any way to have your card ran for validity. There is no merit to what can be said on the other sites, imho.

Son, with as much respect as I can muster you have under 800 battles. You haven’t been around to experience just how dangerous the AI AA can be between luck and the right conditions.

I’ll even grant that their potency has been toned down in recent years, and you as a new player should be grateful for it.