Usually, people talk about the whole experience they had. When you read my comment you take the conclusion that I’m talking about my last few matches of the day? I had thousands of instances where I launched R-27ER and Sparrows to make a comparison between them
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My experience of using both Sparrows and 27ERs, which you appear to have almost none.
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I think he means that the R-27ER can require the correct path much faster than any other missile if the target gets out of the multipathing effected ceiling for a brief moment. Other missiles could not react in time and are slow, so the chances of the multipathing to trow the missile away are much higher
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Well you’re wrong lol. Maybe don’t make unwarranted assumptions about people
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According to thunderskill, you have essentially no experience using the 27er. I CBA to open the game to check your actual playercard.
Interesting that you say something like this, when you were happy to dismiss the opinions of people without “enough SIM experience” in the simulator section of the forum. Pot kettle black.
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This doesn’t make sense to me
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“Thunderskill” is totally inaccurate, the only ones who still use that site is just some toxic squadron. Thunderskill also says I only have 12 battles in sim when I have played over 1000 battles in sim and over 5000 kills.
I have plenty of experience against all missiles, I have unlocked every top tier airframe in the game except the F14 pretty much. I’ve fired off probably 500 ER’s in sim, not many 7M’s in sim however I’ve fired probably 100-200 of them in custom battles at this point, I’ve likely also defeated >300-500 of both, most through multipath
You literally have less than 10 battles in sim, 3 kills total. Your stats indicate you probably didn’t get far off the “take-off” stage. So yes I will continue to dismiss your opinions in sim. Why do you even care about sim you literally don’t play it… You clearly just wanted to piss off Feet
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Cause Pantsir doesn’t have the range to deal with 15 - 30km standoff CAS.
Its range against fixed wing aircraft is 12km.
And 7F/M have the same range as R-27ER with the 2nd best maneuverability of SARHs.
@Calerid
R-27R has a low range and middle maneuverability. AIM-7F/M easily is drastically superior to it and all other missiles that aren’t R-27ER.
R-27ER is only good at killing the unaware jet.
You must be talking about AIM-54A, cause R-27ER is same height requirement as AIM-7.
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I was wondering when would Alviswisla post some more nonsense for us to enjoy
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Facts aren’t nonsense. You can choose to continue believing Russian sources instead of facts.
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There you go… Keep on going
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Yes, but also NEVER adding aim-120 or symilar
true, like french MIRAGE 2000 bus on payloads
When an aircraft is in multi-path or moving in and out of multi-path, the “perceived” target position can jump back and forth. Sometimes when this happens the missile will completely lose track of the target. In the case of missiles like the Sparrow it will often go dead and fly straight into the ground, whereas the 27ER is able to get “later” updates on the position of the target even if lost. It’s a natural consequence of DL. The same thing can occur when you’re trying to track a notching target well above the ground. GJN recently increased the length of time non-DL missiles can “reacquire” a lost target, which should have improved things, but obviously having proper DL is always going to be superior.
As explained multiple times - when people are asking for FM changes that affect RB, I think anyone should be able to comment on it. It’s not a hard concept to grasp, and I know you’re not stupid, so I don’t understand the gatekeeping.
I mean I think you and I are on the same side. What I’m saying though is not about you but the commentary and experiences of overall group users.
When reading comments or talking to people. It’s almost always the same statement. Very few people state that the R-27 is horribly bad, most state that it’s very effective with a few one off bad shots. On the flip side, few people are impressed by the performance of the AIM-7s, but many people express that it has a very bad ratio of performing acceptably, even in combination with better radar sets.
We can reasonably assume that not everyone is an idiot on either side. Even though many people on this forum want to claim their side is the only intelligent nation. From that we can extrapolate there is some level of issue with missiles tracking. It does seem to affect American missiles to a higher degree. The R-27 is either over performant in keeping locks or the the AIM-7 is under performant. We know in real life most all of these missiles did not perform as well as they do in this game.
Which a certain few dinguses say has nothing to do with realism 😂🥲
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If you’re just going to continue slinging insults instead of addressing arguments… perhaps you should introspect about whether or not what you say is really all that truthful to begin with.
Alvis hit the nail on the head earlier, you can address those comments with substance or you can continue being rude…
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No, you (they?) both literally attempted to change the English definition of the world realism. There’s nothing of substance to have with people who try to rewrite a language to prove their game is okay.
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You resorted to insulting him on multiple occasions and have not provided a counter to their statements. Currently we have your opinion. In testing on my part, the SARH’s are all equally useless regardless of performance disparity. In fact, in the places where they are actually useful the R-27R (not ER) stands apart as slower to accelerate and more maneuverable - more useful in a furball meta.
Your complaints ARE NOT warranted. The insults ARE NOT welcome.
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It was a generalised thread on the Su27’s performance in simulator battles, it wasn’t specifically about the flight model (to which you contributed nothing), there’s way more pressing issues than the flight model in sim for the su27 which was being disussed, we had to constantly explain to you why these things mattered because you had no idea.
Now of course you can come in there and discuss a flight-model but let’s be honest with ourselves, that’s not what you did. You came in there attacking feet for days IIRC and only after the incident you asked one sortof-productive question about the flight-model. You can call it gatekeeping, I’m just calling it what it is.
Are you knowledgable about the whole multipathing issue? I’m guessing based off the fact you haven’t reported it, it’s not something you’d like to see changed in the game but I’ve seen conflicting sources on what it’s effect should be IRL. IMO It’s ruining BVR combat and pouring fuel on the fire regarding the dominance of dogfighters. Anyone can force a merge with minimal effort.