Surely the Mach 5.8 missile that makes any engagement at any range a win for the guy with the ER is balanced. Should also mention the US was literally all about BVR while the Soviets were still clinging to the archaic maneuverability doctrine which they still do to this day. You don’t win against a shitter with an ER/ET it is utterly insane that missile even made it into the game with how ahistorical it is.
They’re strong, sure, but I don’t think the solution here is to remove them, since the main issue is the lack of any good ranged competition, it’s about time for aircraft which rely on Sparrows and Skyflashes recieve early AMRAAM models.
These would still be slower and have less range than the R-27ER, however it would provide the benefit of a missile capable of guiding itself and being more difficult to notch than the Aim 7F/M, so it would have the advantage of the AMRAAM user not having to commit to the engagement to the degree of the R-27ER user.
As for France, they’re in a weird spot, but giving the Mirage 2000 5F the MICAs on all 4 pylons in order to remain relevant wouldn’t be the worst option.
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The R-27R is severely overlooked in this regard and the R-73 is more than sufficient on aircraft that use the R-27ER to compensate. I see a lot of people doing only R-73s if possible, with only 4x R-27ER because that is the only weapon available for the pylons they take them.
Or they could fix the AIM-54C’s, but according to Russian mains that would be “unfair”
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Neat, let me know when they make mm based on production date.
Probably around the same balance as sarh was early on. Russia with 10g, mach 1.7, 9km range sarh vs US with 15g, mach 4.0, 45km range sarh.
Just wait, next year, US will be new aam, sarh or arh, which will beat anything Russia has. That is how the cycle works.
It wont because the devs are gonna mismodel the R-77 just like the russian mains are trying to get them to do, giving it all the advantages of grid fin missiles without any of the disdvantages, thereby forever ensuring russian BVR supremacy in WT
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It will happen, this has been going on for a while and i dont see it changing
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You seem to have completely misunderstood the point I was originally trying to make. The Soviet Union was never a BVR superpower. As they prioritized maneuverability. BVR capabilities on Soviet aircraft were to be blunt dogshit compared to Western Counterparts.
The text you quoted wasn’t even about introduction date, which you would have known if you weren’t on the S Grade Copium.
This has no bearing on the agruement at hand you are just moving goal posts to a point where you forget that it just proves my point above. This isn’t similar at all to what is actively happening in the game right now.
Both of these missiles were easy to dodge if you knew what you were doing, try dodging an R-27ER at sub 3 km and near the deck oh wait thats right unless you are in a Grippen you can’t. Though you run the risk of making sweet love to the cold unforgiving ground.
Right the cycle of Russian mains cry to get super missile added while the US Mains get originally well balanced missiles which has been going on since the MiG-23. America has consistently been on the back foot since then.
Russian players say the funniest stuff
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I’m a UK main who has top tier Russia and US. You are a bad player if you can’t see the 27ER is levels above the 7M or aim54. The fact that russian players bring up the aim54 is hilarious.
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I havent moved my goal post. My position is that top tier cycles between Russian dominance and US dominance.
I guess my experience differs from yours. For me, US becomes top dog and the other nations cry. Russia becomes top dog and US cries.
Okay? Even with Russia having worse missiles than the US irl, what arguement is that other than one about production date? If Russia is behind 20 years in missile tech, then US planes in-game would be facing Russian missile 20 years ahead of theirs.
Basically all this is. Russia gets better stuff and US mains cry. Then US gets better stuff and Russian mains cry.
khm… overbuffed f16…
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I have more experience in top tier Russia than you
Now F-15A is overperforming. F-16 still hasnt been done anything about nor has Mig29SMT has been fixed.
It stills overperforms to what I have heard but radar underperforms.
I fully support this removal if they’re not going to give them their actual performance and limitations.
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This you?
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When the R-27Er keeps tracking me after the MiG lost the lock over 10km of Range (on which i changed course 2 other times) → still hits me = this is bullshit.
Meanwhil S.530D explode INSTANTLY when the Mirage looses lock (which is not as IRL)
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It doesn’t keep tracking.
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It does → i have to found the replay, but i’ll do it tonight and post it here
And S.530D should not explode in the air until battery dies–> it can be useless not tracking or Re-tracking the ennemy,… but it should not be instantly exploding.
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