We already live in a world where 4/10 nations have Leo 2s, even more have SPAAs like the M163 and zsu23-4.
Should we really be nitpicking here with one more Oplot when the core issue is so so sooooo much larger rn ?
The only thing I can say is that I am happy its not another copy pasta Sherman,M48,M60,Leo,…
And its a Squadron vehicle aswell so it is an optional vehicle if I am not mistaken.
Those aren’t comparable when leo2s are getting added to countries that actually own them as their main MBT and mostly European nations. The oplot was never operated by pakistan and adding more trial vehicles opens the door to some really ridiculous mixed equipment which will harm the who’s fighting who identity even more.
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You’re mixing things up.
Textbook
Do you like pancakes? Yes.
So you hate waffles.
The US can actually get the Oplot since they’ve actually purchased a few
What are you talking about ?
No, I’m not.
In order:
1- Service vehicles.
2- Purchased vehicles intended for service.
3- Trial vehicles. [This topic.]
4- Combat ready prototypes.
5- Incomplete prototypes.
6- Mockups. [Gaijin’s line is here.]
7- Paper.
So if they oppose tier 3 of equipment, they have to oppose 4 and 5 as well or double standards exist.
Prove that they’re in service then.
And you just proven you in fact mix things up.
Even incomplete prototypes and mockups are better to introduce than trialed vehicles that nations refused to buy.
No
You’re applying double standards then.
Mockups never made it to functionality.
Trialed vehicles are at least combat ready.
Some have been prototypes, most service-ready.
No I’m not, you’re just confused.
Not combat ready in that country nor they have any connection to that country either.
US designed and built prototype has much more grounds for addition than a vehicle that was just trialed and never bought by the US.
paper boats exist in the game
This was the mentioned oplot, a special variant purchased by the USA
The Oplot-P, as represented in Pakistan under the Chinese Tech Tree, does not exist. It’s a completely fictional vehicle.
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I’d probably say from how we see Gaijin choose to add vehicles it’s probably a bit different. Pure (non-purchased) trial vehicles are very rare in game and used far less than even incomplete prototypes (even when we take out naval).
1 - Service vehicle
2 - Complete prototype
3 - Purchased non-service import/—/—/—/ ________________________________ Gaijins Soft Line _________________________________ /—/—/—/
→ Vehicles can also be regularly added, but Gaijin are inconsistent with them. Sometimes Gaijin deny vehicles in this category outright, in others they are added and sometimes even preferred over the first two categories (see trial Oplot M added over prototype Oplot P). They can be suggested on the forum.4 - Incomplete prototype
5 - Trial (not purchased)/—/—/—/ _____________________ Gaijins Hard Line (with few exceptions) _____________________ /—/—/—/
→ Vehicles here will not be regularly added, but Gaijin have made some exceptions to this rule in the past, most notably their Flakpanzer 341 (mockup), R2Y2 (paper) and Ho-Ri “Production” (fiction). They can not be suggested on the forum.6 - Mockup
7 - Paper
8 - Fiction (Somehow this is one Gaijin did more than paper…)
At least that’s what I think Gaijin does, their exceptions still confuse me a bit.
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What we have in game just isn’t the Oplot P, but it’s still a real tank. Only that this tank was an Oplot M used for trials by Pakistan in 2015.
This tank also has the A/C and APU of the Oplot T, so it might have been either an Oplot T or (more likely) a prototype Oplot M used to test these features for the Oplot T. So with that even the model in game is accurate, even if this is likely more of a coincidence than something Gaijin planned.
Spoiler
A/C - Blue
APU - Orange
I still would’ve preferred the Oplot P over this, it’s weird to have an unmodified trial vehicle when an entirely new variant of it was made based on the results of the trial, but it’s not completely fictional either
ah so what happened to the " we dont want foreign vehicles, just fix our chinese tanks and add more indigenous ones" ? All of a sudden, a foreign, fake vehicle is making your Chinese tree better?
Generally nothing, but it is disappointing they didn’t even try to put in the effort to make the proper Oplot P.
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Getting a Oplot will make it a little better? Lol
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Btw, where is the Italian Tiger 1 that the Italian community asked for, and Gaijin vehemently refused to add it as Italy only trained its tank crews on it ??? This game’s development is so ridiculous.
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