Show me a video of your HE round hitting a tiger 2 or panther center mass and killing it. No roof or lower turret shots.
probably because this is not a historical game.
And yes, i will suggest you play historical games if you want historical battles. Same reason WoT players would tell me to play a different game if I went to their forum and demanded that they add playable cas and got rid of the HP boxes and circle rng aiming.
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Would you pick a Tiger 1 over M-51 at 8.0 though?
Ngl, i would still pick the tiger.
Then you are a fool. Sounds like it’s a joke though.
Historical accuracy was used to get the game going by filling a niche and thrown away when the game got popular and it wasn’t needed anymore.
Historical accuracy was sacrificed to dumb down the game, making it more like the other games and attracting the huge casual audience.
Why?
You can’t be serious.
I am serious. I would take the tiger 1 over the m51 in a 8.0 match. Only time i would go for the m51 would be for fighting the soviet heavies.
I think that the real damage should be given to all the bullets, and then rebalance the tanks, it cannot be that they face a Tiger 1 against an M51, but it cannot be that you hit a tank with a HEAT of 400mm penetration and you only kill one or two crew members, in fact I think that is why we have the Br as they are, due to the randomness of the damage of all non-APHE bullets.
By having as little games as You do and stats like You, what You describe in this topic is simply not true.
I have played this vechicle much more and did better in it to know that HEAT are not as reliable.
The pen is good, nothing more really.
So all 75mm shermans should be at 5.7 as Jumbo is at 5.7 and is doing well?
Which in this game is not common and doesn’t guarantee success.
Jumbo 76 is much more better tank than M-51.
It really isn’t.
The gun itself is not much as at 8.0 vechicles are much more mobile, have more reliable ammo and have stabilization.
That are not taken into consideration when talking about any vechicle in WT.
lmao
6.7 is where the real problems used to start now with the M51 and Russian and US artillery the problem has crept down to 6BR and as low as 5 BR with the tier system.
People try to say there is no WW2 but there is and there is an over lap where Cold war and WW2 meet,no denying it.
Some of these vehicles do stretch the balance issue out quite a bit.
I was referring to the ZTS63.
I give up. Your only argument is that you’re a better player, even when I explained to you why this argument is worthless. It’s astonishing how little information actually gets through your skull. It’s the same thing over and over again.
What kind of backwards logic is that, it makes me believe you can’t think logically.
Lmao, of course, Jumbo 76 performs better against T-54s than M-51, simply because it has 13.2hp/t instead of 11.5, a stabilizer and APHE. Naturally 200mm pen@60 degrees 500 meters on M-51 vs 48mm of pen@60 degrees 500 meters on Jumbo 76 is an irrelevant detail.
No one cares when it hinders the whole German tech tree.
Should be.
For sniping it is.
My argument is that I have played this vechicle much more and that Your own words doesn’t match with Your performance.
It is the same logic as saying that gun of M-51 (HEAT round) can work at 8.0 so M-51 should be at 8.0
Jumbo 76 is better than M-51 at 6.3., I know it is hard to read but again try.
It doesn’t hinder anything. It can be frontally destroyed by Pz IV.
Of course not.
lmao x2
please shut up and listen to what you are saying for a second, because you have no idea what you are saying
You would gut most of the swedish tree with this- Ikv would be basically useless at that BR due to horrid gun handling and an atrocious velocity. Removing APDS shells would make the '63 variant of the Pvkv M/43 completely useless. Stuff like the PT-76, Pvkv IV- hell, the Lago I isnt even good right now, and the APDS is its one saving grace.
APDS/HEAT-FS is not inherently powerful, and in many cases can straight up be worse then APHE. At , the BR the Ikv is at I would take a long '75, and even the shermans short '75 over it- its simply not good at that BR.
The Ikv can be killed by 7.7 MGs and has a horrendous shell velocity. The PT has a absolutely horrible HEAT-FS round, is pretty slow, and can be killed by .50cals.
Because it is a game, not a historical simulator.
" iT nEeDs To Be 8.o CuZ iT nO fAiR fOr MuH tiGoOoOr "
Utterly ridiculous. Everything within the M-51’s current BR range can pen it with little to no hassle. It’s a glass cannon with almost hand’s down the worst gun handling in the game, with a shell that is questionable at best due to how RNG the damage potential is.
Nah, that one goes to the Pvkv IV.
That’s why I said almost.
No lmao.
A better tank should perform better at a higher BR too.
Speaking of reading, I meant that small maps hinder the entire German tech tree too.
Of course yes.
No. It doesn’t need good gun handling, it’s a TD.
Lies. 75mm APHE with 150mm of pen is useless? Since when?
Pz 38s at 2.3 have similar guns, but without APDS, and no one complains they are useless.
Not this again bruh.
It’s a cast hull Sherman and slower than a King Tiger. It’s not even the only thing there with HEAT 400mm~ pen HEAT Shells.
The M36B2 is objectively better in every way other than armor and sits at 5.7. And seriously, you’re complaining about a 3.3 Sherman with a big gun at 6.0? Why don’t you just shoot the damn thing and shut up. It is your fault if they snipe you.
