Remove Fox-3 from GR?

For gameplay balance, Fox-3 should be removed, as the JAS39A/C Gripen for a really good example can abuse the air spawn using Fox-3’s oh and before you say oh just spawn at the airfield, don’t you worry radar can lock you on the ground and you will die before you even get to 50m off the ground, This game has become a Spawn campers game, its not fun to get a plane and spawn in 2sec latter hear the RWR go off and 5sec later explode, The S1 was bad enough with the 35km range but Fox-3 dose’nt even require you track the target so what is the player supposed to do in this situation?

Why can 1 plane be able to lock down the entire other team’s air ability,
this is stupid, and encourages boring no fun one-sided games,

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I would be really against this.

As an Israel player, I have no playable AA, so my only choice to counter KH38 slingers is to spawn CAP.

I cannot get too close to the battlefield because a Pantsir will just delete me, so ARH’s are really my only tool to deal with a SU-25/Su-34 who sits in his own Pantsirs protection envelope.

I don’t think we should be nerfing CAP in an era where 9/10 countries have inadequate AA. (The 700 odd sp spawn cost is punishing enough)

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I found CAP to be quite fun, but not when you are facing it XD

I remember when i realized air target belts increase by like 200 sp. I still don’t understand that. Why does my gun ammo cost nearly the same as AIM-120s??

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Yeah, it’s wild.

Meanwhile you have Ka-50/52, who are allowed to spawn at the very start of the match with APDS belts lol.

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I still think Helis are more powerful than fixed-wing and the sp requirements should reflect that.

rn fox 3 is pretty much the only way other nations can deal with the su34 kh38 spam as iv seen multiple games where it spawns in spams them out gets 4+ kills rearms then dose it again, unless someone in a fox 3 plane goes up there and stops them, if that weren’t the case Russian CAS would pretty much be invincible

same meta as helicopters spamming faf missiles over a hill and rearming, only reason you dont see them much is because getting a top tier heli is time consuming asf

CAS is unkillable and OP, can’t be killed by any SPAA in the game.

Fox-3 fighters are the only real effective way to frag us CAS players, so no, it shouldn’t be removed.

*As a War Thunder player.
No countries have playable AA at the top end, I should know having been a CAS main against them for over 2 years.
SPAA is incapable of fragging my 12+ CAS options.

not as bad as the AH-Mk-1 Apache gets Starstreak’s 4x laser guided A-A and A-G

Pretty sure you can’t first spawn with starstreaks any more

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You are correct.

We need more CAP, not more CAS

When did JAS39A receive Fox? Literally seems like you have a cope post where you didnt bother checking your sources in the slightest. Also what air spawn advantage are you talking about? The naps where everyone spawns or in ground rb where again everyone spawns in the air? Idk bait used to have some effort in it

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There are 927 (and some more now) Aircraft in WT, so I got one wrong. My point still stands: Both planes can air camp with complete immunity, and Fox-3s make it even easier. Read the title, it had GR in it.
I have no idea what “naps” you are talking about, maybe should do some source checking on that one.

So spawn at airfield…?

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