They should add them all at once or else it’s not equal treatment until then
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Some people in here have a hard time with reading comprehension.
FCS modules already exist on the Leopards and Abrams. Currently the vehicles in game that have it already, get disabled if these modules are destroyed.
Double standards.
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Interesting.
Stabilizer goes out when the FCS is taken out on the Leopards.
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Could be, maybe they forgot to turn it off and just removed it’s funtion on the UI, you should probably make a bug report about it as on the UI doesnt mention that the FCS doing anything.
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Current state of FCS is quite bad,it counted as one big module and bound too many things on it which high-related to the game experience like ability of aim and fire.
I think gaijin should separate it for commander and gunner,and then remove the disable for aiming and firing for manned turrets
Not anymore actually.
It used to be that way for quite a while after the initial DEV server that added them to the Leopard 2 and Abrams. They removed that function at some point since then (idk when and I honestly thought it was still a thing too until I actually checked the .blk files like 2 weeks ago - I know that it did disable stab on LIVE at some point and probably have some footage of it doing that buried somewhere)
However the same cannot be said for light vehicles/IFV’s
The FCS literally disables everything and it itself is destroyed by the power-system module, which makes it extremely frustrating, since even poorly placed shots will disable you anyway.
Imo it should solely disable; Stab, thermals, laser rangefinder, laser warning system, IRST, and maybe the smoke-dischargers…
The other parts should only be disabled if the vehicle has a crewless turret.
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Thanks for the correction with explanation.
The real “double standards” here is Gaijin’s refusal to model spall liners on Chinese vehicles (basically every top tier Chinese tank has them IRL), and having spall liners enabled on other vehicles anyway. The funniest thing is that many people in this thread do not realize that FCS is already disabled for all top tier MBTs. It’s just pointless self-victimization while ignoring the facts of the situation. The truth is that Leopard, Abrams, have been consistently favored with things such armour modeling, modules, reload times, and rounds, yet the players of these tanks constantly complain that they are not favoured even more.
The implementation of modules such as horizontal drive is unequal when taken by itself, but when put in context, it is only a small nerf which does not change the status of Leopards and Abrams as the best top tier tanks, which has been true for more than 2 years.
They haven’t refused, no one’s supplied diagrams or photos of every position they are.
Saying “x has a spall liner” is like saying “USA has a rainforest”.
It doesn’t tell you much if you aren’t told where it is.
Spall liners are also a marginal change; it’s not going to change a T-series tank’s outcome of turret flying.
Completely false, diagrams and such have all been supplied in excess without any action taken. Not really much of an argument there.
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Im not even a US or Germany main, a lot of things that were already accepted are still not fixed in game for almost if not every MBT, and saying that the Abrams armour modelling is favored is a pretty good joke. You are being a hypocrite saying that the other nations are self-victimizing while you are doing the same thing, if you are mad about Chinese tanks not having spall liners make a bug report or another thread. The “double standards” here is that some tanks got the modules implemented and fully functional while now that “some tanks” got them but there are some tanks still missing them then they disable it. The Abrams, the Challengers, the Arietes, the ZTZ/VT4 all have their problems and most of them should already been fixed, I dont know why you are attacking other players because they dont agree with something just because you have a different problem. Have a good day
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This is because the same people are denying the problems of others, or assuming they are even worse off, when the opposite is true. Every nation has its bugs, but minor nations are neglected far more. Most of the bug reports this concerns have already been made years ago, yet Gaijin refuses to make any changes except for when it benefits their profit.
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Excuse me? How on earth do you interpret nerfs by adding realistic modules and mechanics only to those tanks as a favour? Where do you see favoured armor modeling in these sad excuses for their real life capabilities? And how are rounds that are out of service for years and were never even used by said tanks favour? Reload is literally the only part where Gaijins implementation is benevolent compared to real life
They should remove Spall Liners too…until they can roll them out for all MBTs who have them IRL. Some MBT who got added years ago still don’t have them while others who got added later immediately got them. Or already the strongest and most armoured MBTs like STRV122 get them but 99A who would need them way more still doesn’t have it.
Instead they gave it FCS which argueably was just a further nerf while still lacking so much and having almost everything of them nerfed from Reload to Pen to their Armour
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To be fair, spall liners are bugged anyway right now (e.g. on some Leopard 2’s they create/increase spall, instead of reducing it [the cone])
Meanwhile modules just absorb all spall entirely while most are not creating spall themself… (Russian Autoloaders dont, fcs modules dont, most baskets dont, though the Leopard 2’s basket does)
They’re frustrating for either side…
Why are spall liners being talked about at length on an FCS forum post. That isn’t the conversation. FCS is a good module to have added, just needs a few tweaks.
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Why couldn’t we pause the turret basket implementation until everyone got them? The destruction of them should be turned on regardless if more tanks are planned to get them but havent.
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This issue affects SPAA tanks like Type 87 badly and is unrealistic. Many tanks has a manual trigger that lets it be fired
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losing the fcs and not being able to fire being exclusive to only the oplot but not other t series tanks is really showing gaijins preferential treatment
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