Thats just my opinion his may differ if its a playstyle thing but thats just my opinion. I think its a okay vehicle but ill never touch it again after playing it at 7.7 and 8.0 since its just worse than most options available at those BR’s
ZSU-37-2 is imo the most well rounded, the chassis leaves a bit of mobility to be desired but its got a great gun and being able to have a steady stream of bullets with a bit of deviation helps with spray since all the radar are wobbling constantly.
I found the ZSU-37-2 to be inferior to the ZSU-23-4, personally, but its a decent SPAA otherwise
I agree in that the 23-4 is a better spaa, more bullets and fire rate help a lot in taking aircraft down but in the multi role function like that of the veak where you can engage in MBT’s the 37-2 is better than the 23-4, but its nice to have both which many nations dont have and even more so if you have the 7.3 23-4 but thats nore so a M163 equivalent imo
same
Still waiting for some lol vehicles like hmmvw or uaz
That would be funny, maybe i would even grind it out to try it.
But still i stand on only good side, that spaa should fight against planes, not tanks
Why do you need apds? Isn’t HE rounds better for shooting down planes?
To be fair the better velocity of m919 would make it’s gun better against planes
Thats fine with me!
Great,looking forward to it
I must add that many modern AA like 20mm ciws have apds or APFSDS rounds as it has better range and ballistics, which is why I’m not really opposed to adding more of those rounds
I think that would be a good thing as it would allow SPAA to drop back to it’s intended BR and provide much needed AA cover there
It might. Im not against it, i agree that gap needs filling, though at the same time. The Falcon is really fun played in the anti-tank role.
Its where dynamic BRs or a second Falcon with no APDS would be the best solution. Allow the best of both worlds.
I’m only saying that it has been nice in some nations to finally get a gap filling AA only to see it get catapulted up the BR level due to it’s effectiveness as AT ,French DCA being a prime example. Granted it’s hardly breaking news : )
I always suggested two variants of each SPAA ,one with AT ammo and one without and so taking two separate BRs and filling two gaps with one vehicle.Kind of made sense to me especially in lesser nations.
Yeah, it would be good and yeah it happens way too often. with Britain, with how many SPAA we have stacked ontop of each other. Its pretty clear Gaijin over or under estimated many SPAA
Sounds like a sensible gap filler to me.I mean take the Italian M42 Contraereo. It has tiny amounts of Ammo which is presumably where its BR status comes from mostly but give it much more ammo and it could be a very effective SPAA at higher BR and give Italy much needed cover there as well.I mean if it matters you could do this to keep in touch with History rather than throw in totally out of context modern AA against WW2 planes.
Gaijin never seem to think it through
Well, with the ammo crates, could just be a simpe solution to give it 2. Then its not even ahistorical
Bad guns and not enough other features to compensate for that.
Ok, I’ll take your word for it
It was very good with its HE-VT round
same update in which they nerf the accuracy
Why?
in general its too accurate ingame, but apds specifically the bmp2 doesnt seem to be able to fire it accurately without making modifications to the muzzle brake(and the patent to do so is from 2022 which is 16 years from when they stopped producing them)
DCA 40 addition at this BR is insane. But its just one of these examples of SPAAs with just too much pen. Whats the point of Shermans, Panzer IV, T-34, KV-1 etc, when ppl just abuse these rapid firing high pen SPAAs? 97mm penetratin or something. Even Tigers or Panthers are quickly disabled and killed. There are that many others, like ZSU-37 with 87mm pen at lol 3.3 BR. Just compare this to armor values of med and even heavy tanks of this BR bracket. There’s a reason why players spam these vehicles. They’re small and have almost as much pen as real tanks, just with a fast firing autocannon?
Someone should Gajin really hint on these kind of SPAAs. There are more bad examples. I mean Kugelblitz with like 75mm pen got a BR of 7.0 for a reason. While there are Falcon-like SPAAs at BRs of 5-6? This should be tackled. Everything with more than 70mm pen has an easy time to take on tanks, escpecially on small maps. They all need either their AP ammo removed or much higher BRs.
The czech M53 with a two barreled autocannon and almost 100mm pen is also one of the prime abusers. These vehicles actually kill any tank gameplay.I also don’t understand why they have lower BRs than actually SPAAs with much less pen as the Kugel. Penetration is likely the most important stat in this tank game. For very obvious reasons. So…why has one 87mm pen SPAA (full ap belt) a BR of 3.3 (!) and one SPAA with just 77mm pen a BR of 7.0? Does it make sense? The 3.3 one even has a full belt of high pen ammo…
Please lets also talk about the Leopard 1 40/70 Spaa, which is probably the pinnacle of lol SPAA gameplay vs. ground targets. At 6.0. lol. It should be much higher BRed. Its better than a Leopard 1 with just this single shot cannon. On small maps only ofc. But this game mostly cycles small maps. I’ve seen enough matches of Leopard 1 SPAA’s easily massacre Leopard 1 MBTs. Unstabilized single shot guns vs. bam bam bam autofire just on the move.