All AA vehicles with 35mm guns should have all AP belts removed as per Spookstons video they are clearly broken and moving them up wont change a thing. Either remove the AP belts, lock the turret in a 5 degree up angle, or just slap them at 13.0.
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I hate the gepard as much as the next guy buts its really not that OP, if it was more people would use it, the ‘APHE’ doesnt have that much pen, and the APDS is limited to 40 rounds on the ones that get it
the real problem comes from gaijins occasionally buggy damage modelling that can very rarely allow gepards to kill obj279s, and other things with actual armour frontally somehow, but this isnt an issue that is fixed by putting the gepard up in BR, its and issue fixed by just fixing the sometimes unreliable (mostly when overwhelm by high firerate) damage modelling
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The round only penetrated 55mm in reality.
That‘s the main issue.
Coupled with knife fight maps where you constantly shoot MBTs in the side at 200-300m.
Of course it doesn’t help that a single round can obliterate the entire crew of a tank.
If you watched the vid you should also know that he said that removing them also wont fix anything. His approach to fixing 35mm aa is decreasing explosive filler within the round.
Which isn’t going to happen.
But Gaijin is in control of game mechanics and decides how much damage rounds cause.
They can lower the damage or implement realShatter for it.
Or they can also nerf APHE, not fuzing under certain conditions.
Like if round penetrated armor 80% of its max penetration, it won’t fuze, because the fuze would be destroyed from the mechanical stress.
Shell shattered but for APHE 👍
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I mean for one if you watched the video his suggestion was lowering the damage, as its both unbalanced and not realistic at all, it has enough post pen damage to one shot most mbts. This isnt realistic as its armor piercing incendiary not high explosive, so it shouldn’t even act like an explosion inside. My suggestion would be to lower the post pen effect massively, API shouldnt act like aphe, its more localized damage wise, and then removing the belt that has more API in it and only keeping the HE belt and the apds belt. This doesnt remove this playstyle but requires more bullets to be shot as less damage and less actual api is hitting. If its still unbalanced they could tweak the ratio between HE and API in the belt
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I want spookston removed from warthunders community for his videos.
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It is named API-T, but if you look at the stat card it does have normal HE filler as well. There just isnt an APIHE-T round in game, just like they call Rounds just Apcbc and Apc even when they have HE filler.
He is quite a biased one.
I was actually a fan of his back when he was making if X was historically accurate or how bad was the X
But the videos hes been pumping out ever since are not only boring cookiecutter slop, he always brings one or two vehicle lineup, which of course people try to imitate.
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You know, if the APHE change that Gaijin wanted to implement was voted in favour for, that would’ve fixed auto-cannon issues. Because their APHE wouldn’t be a nuke all round anymore. But since the community voted in favour of keeping their unrealistic spherical APHE explosions, you get to deal with these issues.
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He’s got a point on 35mm damage output tho.
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ok but thats wrong on gaijins side, maybe they somehow confused the incendiary mix with explosive filler, bit as far as i can tell the rounds for the oerlikon 35mm cannons are API-T not APHEI-T in real life, if you have any source that says otherwise id be interested tho ofc
It’s really more APHE than API.
It contains Hexal, which is RDX with aluminum.
The shell type is really just superficial.
It explodes, shatters the shell into fragments while the aluminum oxidizes and creates a hot fireball that can ignite fuel or propellant powder.
From what i can tell thats a SAPHEI-T round, which should have less pen
True bro, i know he says to take full lines up sometimes but he should make real line up videos or even prioritize them, but that makes for slower production because of longer matches
Its also the demands of his viewers. They don’t want full lineups they want to see him perform in a singular vehicle sometimes a terrible one. He did do a full lineup video not too long ago but he only used two of the four tanks he had in it lol
At the end of the day, as a youtuber his job is to entertain his audience so his content has to cater to what his audience likes the best.
From what i can tell, this is a circus.
Turning it into SAPHEI would be one way to have Gaijin reduce the penetration.
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Even though it’s clearly not SAPI. But the penetration calculator just doesn’t give any realistic results for projectile at very high or low velocity.
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