if an anti-aircraft gun shoots down all the planes, it has no effect on the game. But the planes have an effect on this game. It’s a paradox.
If an SPAA regularly shot down all the planes, Gaijin would not leave it at such a low SP cost. Simple as.
Clearly they are not that effective from Gaijin’s own POV.
One more thing.
You can additively stack SPAAs, but you won’t get a linear increase in their effectiveness like you would with tanks, unless the player in the plane makes a mistake.
Planes have a positional advantage and a range advantage. They can choose if, when and how the fight takes place. SPAA is much more reactive than that.
Planes are also typically in the air before SPAA begin to spawn, due to an as yet unresolved issue in the “flow” of a GRB match. So they will usually know where SPAA will appear, and can plan accordingly.
Moving out of spawn is vital for SPAA for that reason, yet also difficult to do if avenues out of spawn are contested, which they can be even if yout team hasn’t lost yet (Abandoned Factory comes to mind).
Really the only thing that throws a wrench in a plane’s ability to pick their fights is that other planes may be in the air… Which is why I think planes remain the only true counter to planes in GRB at the moment. And while yes, I want to learn SPAA, I especially want to learn to fly, so I can take a clean fighter and clear the skies over my team’s heads.
So the cas players are mad that ground players are finally happy?
That fits to how toxic this whole game is
People defending the way ground battle is right now are just egotistical and don’t care about other peoples fun
Also if everyone will go to tanks only mode after it just shows that mixed battles where a mistake from the start
I uninstalled the game and I will only reinstall if tanks only mode is a thing
You should learn to behave and treat other people and their opinions with respect my guy
Also I have seen multiple times where planes just threw their bombs in spawn and kill 3+ spaa’s
Im gonna stop responding to you now because it doesnt make senee to argue with 5 year olds
What has changed for CAS to be mad znd ground to be happy?
That’s true that planes can decide when to engage SPAA. But they need to get within range of SPAA to attack tanks at least on most maps (larger maps at lower tiers are en exception). So while a plane circling at a distance from the battlefield makes the SPAA “ineffective”, simultaneously that SPAA by keeping the aircraft from attacking tanks by its mere existence is still accomplish its primary mission. Rather than explicitly a counter, the SPAA in that scenario is a deterrent for CAS.
It’s a passive counter to CAS (countering CAS when it comes) as opposed to FAD, which is an active counter (it goes to the CAS).
I’m working on an academy post talking about among other things passive vs active tactics, because there currently isn’t one and it seems there’s a general lack of knowledge about the topic. Or at least the theoretical aspects of the topics.
All a pĺane has to his hover and wait for SPAA to attack another plane and then dive on it
Then all an SPAA needs to do is wait for the plane to attack another SPAA and kill it
It’s not fair to make hypothetical 2v1s and try to use that as a defense for your argument. Especially when the 2 is much more difficult to obtain than the 1.
SPAA can not fight off a plane on fair terms no matter how you write it up
It doesn’t need to fight fair. This is war. And SPAAs could easily outnumber aircraft if players were smart enough to use full lineups.
Like everyone is going to die at the same time, i can drop bombs out of range from SPAA
Well, best of luck to you hitting those bombs from that range
Have you ever dive bombed, not every SPAA can shoot stright up
And not every aircraft can dive bomb
Plus, SPAA are not fixed- they’re SELF PROPELLED Anti-Air after all. So if an aircraft is coming in perfectly vertical, just move
Might work if you can move as fsst as a plane at 300kmh