Removal of ammo racks and fire racks (POLL)

You are waiting for range finder? I thought you want skill based gameplay :D

That will shoot at center mass of ship. You still need to adjust to hit specific place like ammo or turret.

No wonder you are getting ammo racked when you are almost stationary showing full broadside to enemy. Btw. you need to be in circle to win…

Perhaps work on your skill first before you start talking about skill based gameplay?

What realism? I don’t remember any German BB from both world wars, which just exloded on a mission and sunk. Barbette fires and exploding main magazines are just an ingame issue.

That’s the neat part: German battleships in warthunder have a frontal magazine plate made of paper. If they point bow towards the enemy, that plate is a death sentence.

Bayerns are the only ones that have a fat enough frontal plate to angle but the sides of that same plate are like 30 to 50mm thick.

Unironically, Scharnhorst broadsiding at close range is actually the best bet but yes, being stationary is just asking for shells down the elevator shafts.

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in all my research there was only one that had that it was a german predreadnought it sank when a secondary magazine ignited and set of primary

Dude we get it. You just dont want to get ammo racked.

instead of removing the issue how about fix the issue?

according to gaijin there is no issue but stats say other wise

I believe it is necessary to subdivide the current ammunition and propellant charge magazines by designating them as ammunition and propellant charge chambers and applying detailed criteria to their child nodes.

As it stands, replenishing just a single shell would cause the hit detection for hundreds of shells to be restored.

The explosion rate appears to be determined by the amount of remaining ammunition, but in reality, such a probability shouldn’t exist in the first place for a location where no shell is present.

also i think if you run less ammo the magzine should also be less it never seems to change

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Only AXIS?? Lol…All US battleships from N.Dakota and up are so ammorackable its not even funny!

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there not actually that bad really and im talking about toptier
you can kill them at close range but if you stay like 10 miles apart most ships cant scratch you

The only ships at top tier not easily ammo racked is the Soyuz or Iowa if at less than 50% ammo

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yeah 2 countires thats the problem why are they same br

Having checked, Scharnhorst’s magazines do not deplete over time - I’m in test sail right now with only 150 rounds in each magazine (450 of 1350 max) and neither does Bismarck with 360 rounds (90 in each magazine). Out of 1008 max.

And while not every ship has magazines that change with ammo left, this is a bit problematic for the german BBs.

Decided to test Sachsen as I’m typing and its magazines don’t deplete either.

Edit

Looking closer, Sachsen’s does deplete but with 280 rounds only parts of the upper magazine are empty. Specifically left side of turret 2 and 3

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As far as I know ships ammo racks doesnt get smaller when you take less or use your ammo but its explosion is smaller.

Quite a few ships have magazines with ammo that is removed at certain ammunition numbers. Dunkerques and Richelieus - for example - can carry half ammo and have the top half of the magazines empty.

Jean Bart for example

Is it because they have all the ammo on one place because of turret placement?

Maybe. Could just have more work put in compared to others. I otherwise don’t know.

as someone who has grinded the majority of (soon to be all) USN battleships, this is just incorrect. every battleship in the american tree from the wyoming at least up to the tennessee are incredibly easily ammo rackable from extended distances, and if you aren’t carrying minimal ammo it frequently results in death. this is due to the sheer size of the ammo racks (literally just hit anywhere near the guns on bow or stern), the slow speed and lack of maneuverability of the ships, etc.

they only become more survivable when ammo is minimal like i said. even then getting ammo racked still happens extremely frequently, it just becomes less deadly.

Not sure if you misquoted me but: Yes, almost every single ‘Dreadnought’ battleship from the US shares the same magazine issues.

NoDak with 1/3rd ammo has part of the magazine empty but it’s not enough for it to survive concentrated fire. Hell, even an HMS York can occasionally (somehow) hit the magazine at roughly 13 or so kilometers.

Wyoming seems to be tanky against same tier but I don’t have it yet and I’ve only ever really fought it with the Kongou class… Which doesn’t give a singular fart in space about its armor.