Memory of a gold fish.
A fathom of a dog? That was deattached from the main argument and was me complaining about my assumption about mods removing my posts due to critique of it, as i had experienced previously.
Will he give up his pursuit of last laugh in attempt of softening the impact for one’s own ego or will the statshark champion keep pursuing conflict?
No you literally said that T-series is from communism thus its must be bad.
Whos Ego ? I asked you to give any sense to your statement instead of that you gave whole tirade about USSR.
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Youre correct. The double standards Gaijin has regarding armor and ammo are a valid point of discussion but if you want an actual discussion about these things then you have to look into the actual history of the topic at hand. The general technological difference of the eastern block compared vs the west can not directly be translated into this discussion without going into the topic at hand in more detail.
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That was my point yes, detour was in attempt to bring logic in to the equasion. Not a source per se, but it highlighted the absurdity of it all.
- M1A2T > Any Russian MBT.
- M1A2 SEP v3, M1A1 SA (Australia) > Any Russian MBT.
- Leopard 2A7HU > Any Russian MBT.
- Merkava Mk.4M > Any Russian MBT (I don’t have the Merkava, so I’m relying on the judgment of extremely knowledgeable players here, BPA_Jon, Ryanberry, Cavenub, Hazeyy, etc.).
- Type 10 > Any Russian MBT.
In short:
S-Tier: Strv 122’s, Leo 2A7’s, SEP v3’s, M1A2 Trophy.
A-Tier: Type 10, M1A2 SEP, SEP v2, M1A2T.
B-Tier: Leo 2A6’s, 2 PSO, Merkava Mk.4M, T-80BVM, Chall. 2E, Leclercs.
C-Tier: T-90M, T-90M Arena-M, Chall. 2, 2 (2F)
F-Tier: T-72B3A, Chall. 2 TES/OES, VT4A1
T-14 with Vacuum rounds where?
Object 477A where?
Object 195 where?
Object 290 where?
Object 219M where?
Because people like yourself whom have never played Russia themselves keep moaning as an excuse for Skill Issues™.
Pretending that ‘Grass is always greener on the other side’ is easier than admitting you’ve never played Russian MBT’s and don’t have the slightest clue just how limited they are by their various shortcomings.
Riiiight…
Statistics as of August.
‘‘My aim is bad and sometimes that tank I shoot at survives a hit, therefore it’s atrocious reload rate, poor penetration, literal worst acceleration of any 12.7 MBT, atrocious reverse speed, atrocious reverse steering, lack of neutral steering and poor gun depression are totally irrelevant!’’
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Don’t know about the ‘Losers’ part as I never said that, but yes, you do lack knowledge because you’ve never played Russian MBT’s yourself.
This is the same thing as US mains that complain about M1’s being bad, and are then surprised to see M1’s at the top of the charts.
Nations mains tend to be ignorant regarding the relative performance of their own stuff.
I’m quoting Statshark, not Thunderskill.
- Thunderskill records data only from those that upload their data to the website.
- Statshark records all data across all battles played. The T-80BVM alone has 1.7 million battles recorded on Statshark.
Well, Russia hasn’t gotten a competitive MBT since 2021, that’s 5 years ago.
Meanwhile, USA has the SEP v3, SEP v2 Trophy, SEP v2, SEP, M1A1 AIM, M1A2, etc.
Clearly there’s quite the imbalance between these two nations where one has 7x 12.7-worthy MBT’s while the other only has one (T-80BVM).
Coming from the person that doesn’t play 90% of top-tier vehicles. That’s a lack of self-awareness on your part.
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Are you insane? What argument? What balance? Who are you talking to?
I replied to another user who was talking about meta. And meta are Nato MBTs.
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Showing me Vacuum in service? Tanks in Russian service best reported round is Svinets.
Show me Radkampfwagen in service?
Not sure where this ‘‘Must be in active service to be eligible for War Thunder’’ stuff is suddenly coming from.
The person I replied to said that Russia ‘‘Gets the best that it has’’, if that were true we’d have the T-14 Armata with Vacuum right now, but we don’t.
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You stated that Russia do not have their best round, when in actual fact they do. Tanks are not equipped with Vaccum 1 the autoloaders are not compatible with it. T-90M and M2 have been seen with Svinets and even 3BM42.
NATO are forced to use DM-53 which has been replaced, with only Britain with their current in service Dart.
Please read correctly before replying:
If Russia gets ‘‘The best that they have’’, they’d have the T-14 Armata with Vacuum by this point, or the Object 477A. I also never claimed Vacuum is available to currently in-game T-90’s, T-80’s or T-72’s.
Oh no! NATO is stuck with significantly superior firepower compared to Russian MBT’s! How horrible!
Besides, DM63 and DM73 won’t offer meaningful improvements over DM53 for War Thunder purposes. I dunno about the status of further ammunition development, but firepower wise NATO is hardly struggling.
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Not good enough smh
I must be able to frontally penetrate T-series with Relikt through the upper front plate!
T-series with worse reload, firepower, shell, mobility, depression and internal layout compared to NATO MBT are so op!!
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it’s quite pitiful when you put it like that.
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NATO players are kinda punished for good shots while russian players rewarded for bad shots…driver engine…a yellow turrent on a Abrams will be locked by just being touched
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I just had to point and click lol, didn’t even bother to aim properly as I knew it would pen like butter
NATO armors are sooo sad, green everywhere
Don’t forget : no russian bias, no unfair advantages given to Russia
And they gave BMPT’s autocannon its original accuracy on top of that ?
Damn, Balance Thunder
Soviets and russians on their way to make 10 billion unrealistic prototypes to get advantage in a semi realistic computer game decades later.
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