Regarding the Hull Armor of the M1A2 SEP V3

Changing the rewards for something I paid real money for is criminal

It’s a 17.1% increase, which is a reasonable change with no change to the interior structure.
Without proof the interior structure changed, what are they supposed to do?

Also, if SEP V2 Trophy KE modifier dropped by 10%, that would mean SEP V3 has a 30.1% increase, cause math; however, the SEP V2 Trophy KE modifier did not drop.

I mean the documents that were sent in said 35%.

They also nerfed the inner bulkhead to 9mm despite having an accepted report from 3 years ago with proof it was supposed to be 1 inch.

Then they took the turret cheeks/side and lowered the KE/CE multiplier… which counteracts the armor increase. Not completely, but it is a bit of a head scratcher.

… and then we don’t have the propper model or composit side skirts on every abrams.

If they could get all this right I’d think raising the over all BR would be great. They already needed to go up, especially with the new vehicles. Should have 14.0 GRB at least.

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What are you talking about?

It’s the best MBT in the game 2nd to none now, it has armor upgrades.

I personally have not read the 35% document you are citing, and would love to do so [no, I am not dismissing it]; and as long as it’s unrestricted.

For now 17.1% increase is fine, but even if it was 35%, that’s ~512; but that would require internal structure changes such as filling the space behind the array with more array.

There was a major report that the community worked on that was denied like… 2 weeks ago? That was part of it.

Honestly, it’s a huge read with everytbing they submitted.

The Spanish Avenger was one of the contributors and shared a link… I think in the dev thread for the abrams armor. (Might have mixed up my chats and be replying in said thread).

At work right now, but it was a pretty impressive report.

Also, your assumption that the array would need more space is incorrect. Armor research has only managed to increase armor capabilities without increasing space required - we aren’t operating with straight steel but exptic materials that involced chemical, heat, electrical currents and lacing materials with particles. If we were dealing with simpler or older armor tech… yeah space would have to increase. But we aren’t. And Gaijin did say in 2021 with a blog post that they’d have to reaspnably estimate those increases with limited info.

This has contradicted their current stance which is dont give us classified info but we required classified info in order to make the changes.

I don’t disagree that the abrams is strong in the right hands. I do however think we should correct the available BRs and then give it… and the other nations their corrected armor packages. Would go a long way to helping the community as a whole feel better about their preferred nations and allow for actual balancing.

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Edited it Alvis because I missed part of whay you said.

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So basically they screwed up the A3 even more and didn’t even link the right ammo to the ingame ammo selector but changed the ammo selector name.

Hilarious 😂

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No no the normal SEP has it, i think its just the V2 thats bugged

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The side composites as well?

Edit, I am dumb and forgot what we were talking about already. My bad.

If you equip TUSK M829A3 changes to A2¸

Edit,

TUSK
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Without TUSK
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Yup, TUSK is bugged

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… so maybe AI will finally fix war thunder when it takes over.

Cannot safely facepalm hard enough without risking serious injury

This update is getting more and more hilarious by the hour. The amount of bugs that have crept up in the live server is honestly embarrassing.

Im honestly surprised antirad missiles and mitl works really well and without annoying bugs tho.

At least something is working properly.
With that AI scandal and all of the botched updates I’m sure they either have no QC or they simply don’t care about it.

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its really nice because A3 doesnt detonate ammo that it hits for some reason
or at least a lot of the time it doesnt

so you can still use A2

wait the m1a1 got the same hull the sepv3 got lmfao, this cannot be real


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the crazy part if after all this the most fun abrams for its br is now the M1A1, so at least 1 abrams is good

gaijin geniunely think the m1a2sepv3, 40years later has a 10mm hull improvement with 500kg lmfao

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imagine t90m with the same hull armor as t72a💀

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