i cant even figure out what he’s meaning cause when translated it sounds like he claiming the hull never increase in weight which is completely unconfirmed right now but is heavily leaning towards it did, so that ge can reason that the hull never got denser or thinker armour?
is that the point hes trying to make??
Gaijin officials have always been adept at selective restoration.
Because it’s the weekend
I believe from the comment your responding to you might be a bit confused he’s aware they have a different armour package seen in his following comment.
he just saying that because of the improvement to the export v3 hull (even if its not the same hull upgrade material) for Australia it can be used to infer that it was done so it could match the “new/improved” hull strength of the sepv3’s new NEA, even if slightly worse do to the lack of DU.
Hence why he said it was a bigger guess on the protection cause we don’t know how much worse than the sepv3 DU composite it is.
Either way his main point was just that due to Australia getting an improved hull to match up/come close to presumably the sepv3 standards of the US variant, it implies that the US had obviously increased the hull or upgraded the composite composition since the m1a1’s were originally exported so could be used as gaijin did in this blog, to provide evidence that the hull of the m1a2sepv3 at least faced some sort of upgrade or change in comp requiring further upgrades/ changes in the exported v3’s. instead of just a turret change like the old export m1a1’s
ah i was missing context, that’s on me.
I see alot of T80U-E1 players on 13.0
so you guys have ENOUGH info for every inches to make op BMPT, T-90M etc. etc. but nato vehicles, is there no sEkRiT documents for nato vehicles? you don’t have to share us(like you did on mighty russia vehicles) just apply it
T-90M is far from OP
You can’t read apparently
I’m going to put @Necrons31467 bug report regarding the SepV3 here:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/74DhWzB6LYhu
In Necrons own words:
“Proposed change: During the late '80s an improved hull armor package was developed but ultimately not adopted on the 1992 M1A2 Abrams (second excerpt attached, source: Ballisticians in War and Peace. A History of the United States Army Ballistic Research Laboratory).
This package provided an additional 35% protection against KE threats. I would suggest a similar change for the SEP v3, this would increase the current protection of ≈378mm to ≈510mm to represent this improvement.”
we can pray, but its probably gonna be like a 50mm improvment at most knowing gaijin lmao
I think that would be a good change overall, essentially means it’s protected against 3BM42 and DM33 but still is reliably vulnerable to everyone’s top rounds. Doesn’t dramatically affect the playstyle but makes it noticeably stronger than the base Sep.
Labels: “Not enough info”. They’re an insufferable clowns are they? How in the world can someone be so detached from their own community. They must’ve be paid, surely.
Unfortunatly, we’re working with Gaijin here so, unless we can provide them Russian sources which they seem to take without a second thought.
This 35% improvement would be the best we can get for the SepV3.
Keep in mind that this is a game, and Gaijin won’t be able to reflect a lot of changes that are classified or have very little sources with “non vague” information (although we know they have classified documents)
The problem with that is that there is no free press in Russia and all the news articles that were made before ban(There was a ban issued on compromising country and foreign agents) on problems with Russian equipment were erased, they’re probably somewhere on internet archive but it’s very difficult to find. In Russia the nail that sticks out gets hammered down.
Actually they reject a lot of Russian sources when it doesn’t go their way.
Honestly, I’m fine with the M1s as they play, I’ve actually had a pretty good run with the HC lately, but if they’re gonna add the V3 it really should have some capability upgrade over the base SEP. Heck I’d be happy if they’d just remodel the SEP 2 so it has its composite side skirts and a clean turret when you take the TUSK kit off. Overall though I’d rather have the 5 second reload over the extra hull armor if I had to choose.
Lmao, so it’s insecurity then. Well, it’s pointless anyway, it’s not like the community is gonna rebel by stop buying anything from them altogether, we are too ununited for that, and even if they’ll probably wait it out anyway.
Honestly giving it ~500mm vs KE on the LFP would be a decent compromise if it were to keep the 5 second reload purely looking at balance.
It would stop most lower tier darts (3BM42, DM33, 1985-I) and some of the low end 11.3-12.3 ones (3BM46, BTA4, M900) at longer range, but it would massively help since iirc spalling is based on residual penetration or something. So the more armored LFP would help with that.
