Realistic Leopard 2 nerf

Since Gaijin apparently cares so much about realism, where are the realistic brimstones? where are realistic armor values for top tier NATO mbt’s? Why dont WW2 tanks break down after certain period of time in battle? Why dont Leclerc tanks get their top round that they use in real life? I could continue on and on, but this is clearly such a stupid change. Like why???

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It’s all about realism

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Bro, this change cannot go through to the live server. Did they just lose their mind?

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As Bear Grylls said;

And as Dewayne Johnson said;

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Also, as Smin1080 would say;

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Can’t lose what you never had.
Obviously they felt the need to nerf the Leopards, they already gave Russia all the CAS, new SPAA every week, entire lineups you could make out of event and premium vehicles with even more on the way, keep NATO 20 years behind in tech, no armor best armor meta so all the crap BMPs are effective, give out stock HEATFS that tickles ERA, make it so that Russian autoloaders don’t act as powder kegs, only Russia that can fire ATGMs on the move, make fuel tanks absorb all spalling with zero downsides so things like the 2S38 meet their propaganda level performance ( like immune to overheating and no ready rack of course) etc… like if if a different nation was benefitting from fuel tanks then they wouldn’t have made into spall liners and have a detrimental effect when being hit.

They’ve been doing it for years, they manipulated APDS performance back in the day so it wouldn’t work against T-54s, they made it so that German tanks had a line of code added that would cause them to catch fire randomly from MGs hitting the hull.

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I already said this once on this forum and I got muted for it, but this game would be awesome if it was run by some western gaming company.

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ok but can i get a sauce for this claim, this sound absurd yet maybe possible with gaijooble.

Been a long time so a lot of those files are not around anymore, but they added a line of code exclusively for German tanks, and some Japanese tanks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/6pm70p/remember_when_your_pantherking_tiger_burst_into/

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Soviet players: “We finally have CAS on-par with NATO after 1.5 years of them having it.”
People coming to the defense of Soviets: “Actually. Your CAS is OP, NATO is inferior to your great nation!”

BMPs which don’t even make up 10% of light vehicles at their BRs.
2S38 is correctly inferior to HSTVL in-game and has no propaganda performance.
HSTVL being immune to overheating is not new.
HSTVL & 2S38 all being ready rack is common knowledge.

USA, Germany, Britain, Japan, China, Italy, France, Sweden, and Israel all benefit from fuel tanks and have since 2015. Fuel tanks have always absorbed spall as they should.

T-54s fire APDS…

It is ran by a Western game company. Sweden is the favorite tech tree of one of the owners.

T-54s fire APDS…

Against themselves?

Against M60s, which only started getting penned by APDS after the universal rework in 2023 that buffed APDS as a class of weapon.
People are quick to be like “Yeah, M60s/T-54s get penned by APDS see!”
Yeah… today. After the 2023 rework.

And the M60s have a 60 degree sloped front armor ?

Its run by Russians that are officialy working in Hungary Because of EU. Doesnt change the fact that they are russians, and specifically some of their employes just eats russian propaganda for breakfast.

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Heh guess which nation cry about Sweden being OP the most of times

They’re in Hungary because almost all of their employees live in the EU and they hate Russia.
Your post is pure Russian disinformation and propaganda that is easily seen as an attempt to make a company that left Russia look bad.

They all hate russia but it certainly doesnt look like it when you look at some forum mods. Or when you look at balancing of some vehicles. I still dont understand this Leopard nerf, as I dont understand why is Su-25 fortress in game, but A-10 is prone to breaking apart after one hit from 7.62mm

You mean F-15C being the same BR as the vastly inferior Su-27SM?
I wouldn’t own either Su-27 cause I don’t care for them. Su-27SM being a EHHHHH 13.7 paired with a Typhoon-equivalent F-15 is just another nail.

A-10/Su-25 have similar damage models. Su-25 has broken apart, and has taken hits; A-10 has broken apart, and has taken hits. It’s a symptom of the simplistic damage models of War Thunder for aircraft.

Leopard “nerf” is some German/Dutch/etc document of crews being forbidden from putting gun down beyond those angles probably.
Same reason why Abrams can’t get its gun depression, crews are just told not to.

I am irritated that people keep claiming Russian bias exists when I know it doesn’t as someone that has completed all 10 air tech trees, and 6 ground tech trees.

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Idk, who, literally everyone?

Well I don’t know most of the time I see Russian main being the most who complain about Sweden l never see German main complaint about 122 being OP

Yeah

Strv’s are simply trading mobility for armor and better FCS/firepower.