So Phantoms face both f15, f16, Su33 (wtf is this has fox 1 missiles but ok) and f18. Yet every phantom (besides maybe the german one) is stuck with aim9g (uk or Aim9h for US) and decent Skyflash or Aim7f. Its pretty much impossible to make plays anymore as you are getting snipped by pretty much everything with all aspect side winders or getting wiped by Su33 players because gaijin has the jet set at a BR which it just shreds everything it meet plus not to mention that you get out turned by everything. Where is the logic in this?
So what do you want done?
Also, did you just imply Su-33 is “shredding everything it meets”?
Good job you explained how warthunder works, when you fight an uptier you are at a disadvantage and when you fight a downtier you get that advantage
If you are in a 12.0 phantom, and you are fighting 13.0s you need to play more carefully and besides having aim9Ls or whatever wouldnt solve anything, in a headon SARH missiles are your best bet
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Dude, forget about logic in this game. I’ve decided for myself that I won’t spend another penny on this masterpiece of a project. My last purchase was the BMD-4M, and it’s surprising that a light tank has the same speed as main battle tanks at the same tier, yet it’s capped at 70 km/h. I played the BMD-4 before they decided to “update” it, so I know how it used to be. The question is, where’s the logic? What’s the advantage? The answer—there isn’t any. That’s it. Right now, the premium F-18 is in vogue, and everything is tuned so people buy it, and then you can fight against the Su-33. I’m speaking broadly, but the logic is clear, I think. They’ll come up with new premium vehicles and do everything to make the old ones unplayable or uncomfortable to use. And notice, as soon as a new premium drops, the entire Battle Rating starts adjusting.
Idk what you’re talking about w/ the BMD-4M.
So you get nothing but 13.0 games? And 11.0 planes dont suffer against 12.0 phantoms in almost every regard like phantoms do against 13.0?
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The fact that at 9.3 it fights at 10.0+ and, even after the update, they didn’t give it a new round (and it has no armor), at least compensate with speed by raising its cap to 80 km/h instead of 70. Because a light tank in the game is no different from a medium tank or, as they say at this tier, from a MAIN BATTLE TANK!
There’s nothing wrong with this, it’s extremely powerful
It doesn’t need one, its extremely powerful.
It’s a light tank/IFV
You do know these stats are based on the IRL vehicle and not whatever nonsense yea?
Except you get:
- Scouting
- CAS SP reduction
- Scout UAV Drone
- Lower spawn costs
and the fact armor rarely matters at this BR anyway
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I suggest we all stick to our own opinions. Those who play the BMD-4 will understand. Well, I’ve shared my opinion on this forum while it’s still not banned by company policy.
Oh, naturally, not on every trivial thing! That’s precisely why this game is just overflowing with realism, isn’t it? We’ve got those glorious Brimstone missiles, utterly lifelike anti-air systems, and those world-famous Russian rockets everyone’s raving about! I propose we drop this chat right here—I’m so not in the mood for another epic showdown over REALISM. Thanks for the spotlight, folks. Sweet dreams!
You’re not going to see ahistorical speed limits. Especially for a vehicle the community considers “cracked out of its gourd” as it is
are you really judging a vehicles mobility based only on max speed?
the BMD-4s have a higher hp/t ratio than the Type 90
if hes playing a 12.0 phantom then yeah hes right, su27/33 are insanely op whenver theyre not uptiered into fox 3 br.
The 12.0 phantoms are more comfortable vs 13.0 than some 12.3-12.7 jets that don’t have any radar missiles or IRCCM missiles. But yeah f*** BR compression
Theres definetively case for Su-27/Su-33 and 13.0 ARH carriers going up, but only if decompression happens.
Without the aforementioned planes, F-4S sits at rather comfortable BR with its current kit.
Would hate to see addition of 9Ls for example because that would push it much higher in BR to somewhere where its radar and CM count would be obsolete.
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anything can be right with this mindset. “The F-84F is extremely overpowered! It destroys the 7.3 me-262!!!”
He just slipped and said a false thing
Have you ever heard about perspective? And also hes not wrong If the game was decompressed su27/su33 would absolutely go to 13.3. Su33 is by far the stronfest 13.0.
Yes, have you considered he said
and not whatever you think he said? because here he implies it kills 14.0s with ease