So basicly if we look at a modern Apfsds round like the DM53 they have high efficiency against modern ERA like the kontakt-5. Still in WT if you hit the ERA area the dart is absorbed and you very often dont get any further penetration. This is far away from realism and gives the tanks with ERA a really high advantage that is far from reality and more pure fiction. A penetration reduction around 30% would fit the real values and would be balanced.
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Reducing the protection values in 30% and making tanks that have or rely on ERA bad as they are? 30% is a big number.
Where are you shooting the tank exactly?
L27A1 have it as well
doubt that gaijin dare to add something like
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90° shots are like if there wasnt any ERA. So yea ERA is overperforming. It has been years when gayjin didnt change how era behaves and it deserves a nerf just cuz of this lovely thing called “realism”. Static value is just stupid
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Do you even know how many tanks have anti ERA ammo?
How would making the T-80U/-E1/UK/72B3/90A/99As utterly untenable at top tier be balanced
they’d be forced down below 11.0
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lore accurate russian tanks
anything with DM53 and L27A1 (maybe M829A2 on abrams)
well, if player manage to do well in tank that their entire tank is weak spot such as Ariete and Merkava yet both of them still not go down to 11.0 why such tank you mention need to go down?
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IRL these tanks are outdated and perform poorly so id say yeah we could add this
M829A3, not A2. A3 is the round that introduced the soft aluminium tip, which like on DM53 and L27A1 causes the ERA to detonate before the actual penetrator makes contact
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Russian ERA is a fairy tale right now, NATO ERA replacement in NERA is massively underperforming worse than wood or rubber in game.
Where as Russian Relikt, 2 steel plates sandwiched together with a spacer…Stops any round in game.
It’s laughable the argument it weakens tanks that depend on it…OK what about tanks that the 3MB60 routinely one shots through their inadequate front armour? Leclerc, M1A2, CR2, Type 10, Ariete and Merkava.
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And those tanks usually have some advantages, such as mobility, reload rate, or firepower.
You can’t nerf all top tier Russian tanks that severely and not expect them to go down. Nerfing anything that isn’t over performing and not adjusting its br to compensate is incredibly unfair. Disagreeing just makes you biased.
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The entirety of this thread is and will be speculation influenced only by the ingrained biases of players towards their own country’s equipment and the “enemy” country’s equipment. Similar to any Abrams thread (bingo card type discussion). It’s utterly useless. Just selfish argument for changes which do not match reality.
Also, Gaijin still refuses to model the composite armour of many tanks correctly. Especially Chinese top tier tanks, which are heavily underperforming compared to official sources. This has to be fixed before any nerf to ERA takes place.
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ong TUSK and TUSK II made in 2000s perform the same as the ERA on the M60A3 TTS made in 1980s ur telling me TUSK kit which is literally 5 times thicker with newer technologies, weights tons perform the same? That is absurd to even think about
thats not even count the other Western ERA
They should atleast have a minimum of 550mm CE and upward to atleast something 50mm KE
What does the T-80BVM do worse than the CR2 or Leclerc?
It’s not biased to want a realistic game if you want “realistic” Russian ERA then we want realistic NERA.
It is biased to not want a BR change to compensate with a nerf.
Reload rate and hull down long range combat.
Exactly CR2 NERA blocks are designed to stop any 30mm autocannon…including APFSDS rounds.
In game Gaijin rated them as 30mm thick.
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T-80BVM is more survivable and has a better round, and a lower profile. You hit a CR2 in the breach or turret roof and you kill the tank.
Reload rate CR2 has 4 rounds at the 4.5 seconds after that it’s 6
where my depleted uranium armor ? >:(
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its 30mm cannon so 30mm thick is accurate what do you mean? you know nothing
-Gaijin, probably