For starters, the Ratel 90 has a Milan ATGM and an autocannon with decent mobility and pretty bad armor which is similar to the Marder 1 in the German tech tree, but the Marder has more armor and less mobility. I want to provide my point that a 6.7 ATGM that can dog on 5.7 vehicles from across the map is pretty dumb, especially since it can reposition quite quickly. The MILAN ATGM is found in the Marder series of tanks as is supposed to help cope with the super unreliable autocannon. Why the Ratel 90 isn’t even 7.0 at the least is the most confusing thing I’ve ever seen. It’s been a problem ever since I started grinding tech trees like the USA and USSR. I just want it up in BR to make grinding a new tech tree not as miserable.
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First of all you’re talking about the Ratel 20 not the Ratel 90, second of all, it’s good but not overpowered. It dies to everything. It’s like an M44 but worse, it can kill most things in the right position but everything can kill it.
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Firstly, it’s not OP at all. Secondly, you haven’t used any Ratel. You would know it isn’t OP if you actually played it.
The one you need to watch out for is the ZT3A2 at 8.3. That will nuke your German tanks.
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Say, do you think is it possible for someone who played only one airframe, say Phantoms, to know to not dogfight some other airframe, say, the 12.3 M2K?
Ply enough times against something and you will probably know what are its strong and weak points even without playing it.
You can know what sort of playstyle a vehicle may require without using it, be it from flight characteristics, armour profile, weapons and so on.
But you’ll never fully know.
This topic is proof in point.
(btw, not that I’m a Ratel 20/90 expert, I don’t rate them, I don’t play them. I play ZT3A2, instead. I’ve heard the changes to the 20mm with the ATGM sight have made it better. Heck, last time I used the Ratel 20, the ATGM was bugged and the missile would dive directly into the ground. They fixed it after a couple of days (2021). However, the main downside to all the Ratel based vehicles is the chasis itself. It’s large, it’s not very mobile, and it is fragile. I would trade it for the Marder chasis in an instant. Might jump in Ratel 20 over next couple days and fix my KDR in it).
PS: Muting this topic because the guy couldn’t even name the right Ratel. He’s describing the Ratel 20 and calling it Ratel 90.
thats ratel 20, not 90.
Ive gotten two nukes in the vehicle, one of them was 5 mins after match start in a full uptier because russian and german mains suck so let me tell you how it actually plays:
While i agree it should go up significantly you overestimate how goood it is and dont realise the extreme levels player have to compensate for a useless platform to even be competitive
Its fat, slow and unarmoured and too big to hide. Its ATGM while should not be seen below 7.3 is the only thing of merit to the vehicle, it capitalises ONLY on how pathetically bad players of that BR range is. MILAN is only useful as a close-range shotgun as it wanders off target at range and will fall out of the sky from slight corrections
while at a glance these vehicles are similar The marder has armour, mobility and a lazer rangefinder to guide the semi unreliable ammunition at good range for harassive fire.
Marder should be 8.3 its far too powerful for 7.7, Ratel 20 should be 7.3
i firmly think that missile shouldnt be seen below 7.3. it may be an ass platform but its weaponry is too much for a tiger 1
Ratel 20 I believe you mean? Ratel 20 is ridiculous at 6.7 yes but it shouldn’t be as high as Marder A1- so currently 7.3 seems fitting
well thats the issue isn’t it, it can’t go higher and it can’t stay at the same BR.