Rank IX - It’s time for Stock Chaff

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that s good idear！

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+1 @MrKengGe Another one that against us.

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He’s an ARB main with very good stats.

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I think chaffs is not critical in BVR. Those missile launched from 10km away can be notch with out chaff. It’s not critical like flares to ir missiles.

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Someone else also clicked on no

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Wait so how do you do notch without chaff?

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@GoldenBao Please reason.

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he saying someone else not himself

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Hmmmm…

100+ likes and 600+ “yes” votes, yet no indication of consideration yet…

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decend or climb when notching. I know it’s harder and slower to notch missile without chaff, but it is achievable. Fly low is also an option.

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Theoretically possible, but incredibly inefficient and enemy could just push while you defend without proper armament to fight back because stock, it’s always easier said than done.

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I don’t mean you can win an 1v1 with no chaff and 2 missiles. but in ARB, you have multible ways to dodge missiles, so you have more chance to reach a good fire position or bomb the base

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It’s peaker now - 4 idiots who say no to it vs 673 idiots who say yes to it

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Good idea.

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Stock chaff is just a mus. In Rank 8, my F16 ADF is completly stock, and for 1 hour, i got shot down by ARH missels, ecouse i only had flares! Com on gajin,

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Y’all just gotta start pinging the devs and moderators. Force them to verbally say no or to acknowledge it. And of course there is one way to make them implement change… We’ve done it before…

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You can notch without climbing or decending but you must be pretty much accuratelly on ~90 degress to enemy plane. Like its not so hard with modern RWR but I like more multipathing. Its allow you to fire back. Person just need to be careful to not crash into ground.

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So IOG isn’t a thing?

You can fire back, notching is also not a dice roll unlike mp.
Some vehicles even let you fire back within the notch (Su-30SM2)

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So IOG isn’t a thing?

Depends on distance. At greater distances, even small deviations in flight are enough to prevent the missile from hitting.

You can fire back, notching is also not a dice roll unlike mp.

Its never dice roll. Just need to fly very very low and it is almost guaranteed that the missile will miss. In the simulator, this is a ubiquitous tactic to the point that ARHs have a very low mortality rate.

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That will only work if the enemy is also flying low.
Top-down launches negate that.

That’s because most people fly low from what I’ve seen in sim.
Still won’t stop the top-down missile from impacting.

This is also assuming you’re able to stay at the ideal multipath altitude with good terrain for it while avoiding the trees