I’ve noticed more and more rank 5 helis in rank 4 RB ground games packing TOW and other guided munitions. Makes me think my late 40’s to early 50’s US and British tanks really shouldn’t be in the same game. Seen most historical gunships didn’t come about to 1959 (?) they just seem ahead of their time for this rank.
I know stuff gets bumped up and down all the time it just seems unfair that my Patton variant tank is getting nailed from the other side of the map by an invisible cold war helicopter.
I assume the helicopter is the Swedish HKP3C, and it is 7.7 last I saw.
It’s Atgms have a 2km range, and it is bad. It is much worse than a fully loaded American attacked.
What BR are you playing?
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Along with the HKP that @Ion_Protogen mentioned there is also the French H-34 at 7.7 with 3km range ATGMs, it only has 2 though (The USA also has a rare event version to, with 1 SACLOS bullpup).
The Russian MI-4 (8.0) is a possibility to if playing 7.0, and as most nations jump from 6.7 to 7.3 it’s more likely that you get an up-tier.
The M-46 Patton 1 was in service until 1957 and the MI-4 entered service in 1952 so its not historically in-accurate… that dose not mean its a great idea game play wise, especially given the lack of anti-air systems in the game.
Mi-4 is fine, after the ATGM nerfs, Falangas are not very accurate and they never had a good post pen damage. It is also famous for being an absolute flying btrick
HKP is also fine as it packs the slowest ATGMs in the entire game alongside of Type 60ATM famous for how garbage of a vehicle it is, exactly because of these missiles.
French H-34 doesn’t seem that broken either.
US H-34 is an absolute menace though. It is extremely rare, but as a not so proud owner of it, it really is stupid. It’s not like completely busted, since it’s firepower is lacking due to being forced to land after each shot, but this missile is just broken at this battle rating.
It has 10km range, it’s extremely responsive, accurate and with like 60kg of explosive filler it’s guaranteed to destroy whatever it hits. Due to poor zoom effective range would be like 6km max, but still not even a single SPAA at this battle rating comes even close to being able to shoot you down, maybe besides Gepard if you get full uptiered. And planes rarely seek helis this far away from battlefield.
All you need to do while playing it is get up, shoot, kill like 99% of the time, land and repeat the whole process until battle ends.
Without a guy to jump into a plane and revenge kill you, you basically never die.
The 20mm is also a nice addition, with how much pen it has, when you are tired of sniping you can just yolo into battlefield and gun people down with it very easly, it can pen nearly any MBT it faces from the top
naturally a big issue is that at these BRs players have no experience with and are not expecting ATGMs remember the guy is talking about being up-tiered into the atgms from in his Patton 1 at 7.0, rather than the balance of helies at their respective BRs.
That said, I would disagree somewhat about the HKP being fine due to its missile speed, sure its a pain on city maps where you need to hit tanks as they move between cover, but there are also lots of open maps that leave tanks nowhere to hide and its the same BR as the Italian and Japanese UH-1s that have 14 FFAR + 2 7.62mm mini guns and 38 FFAR respectively and no CCIP to aim them.
I’d say HKP is still fine. It needs to get in range of 2km to fire, which basically makes it a free kill for any autocannon/12,7 user that knows what he is doing. This missile needs over 20 seconds to reach it’s target on average range of 1,5km.
Putting it above 7.7 would make it absolutely worthless. Even now it can meet a Gepard in uptier, which will shred it to pieces before it reaches double it’s range from the battlefield
Only starting helis i have problem with are USA H-34 and german Alouette. You won’t meet Alouette in such low BR, but it’s still only on 8.3 and has 4, very strong 3,5km range missiles and unlike Mi-4 isn’t even close to being a flying brick
Take it easy pal, i still waiting a Fl.282 Kolibri (maiden flight at 1940), with at least Kampfpistole/PzB.39 for pilot, or ideally - 3-4 Panzerfaust stash.
BR… Something near 3.7-4.0.
Maybe even at 2.0, due to first flight date.
I challenge you to get the swedish 77 hilo, and tell me how many matches it takes you to get a single kill. That helicopter is ass. Almost impossible to get a kill with and ridiculously easy to shoot down.
With that said, I totally agree that that 8.0 area where late world war II an early to mid cold War stuff blend is definitely some BS and needs to be fixed.