It uses F15 radar components which gave MRFP and other modes.
Highly Doubt.
It’ll be okay, just okay.
is it our fault, if bug report we make are accepted and done?
MICA-EM was and is still kinda faulty since introduction,… we’ve made reports, and it’s Gaijin devs who decided to implement changes.
No. its 2 sources.
1 for Dechirped Aim-9Ls and another that states the Aim-9M had similar lock ranges to the dechirped Aim-9Ls when the RAF evaluated the Aim-9M. Flame has explained the sources used before, but CBA to go looking for them after nearly 3 years.
Aim-9M is “dechirped” in a similar manner to how the RAF modified the Aim-9L
Flame's explanation of Dechirped from the Old Forums
Over in the Tornado thread I’ve alluded a couple of times to a previously unknown British modification to the AIM-9L. Now that I’ve got a bit of time I thought I’d write a proper explanation for what it was.
As a bit of background: the AIM-9L seeker produces an acquisition audio tone whenever an IR source irradiates the detector cell. The pilot can then fire the missile in boresight mode (where the missile will just fire and try to lock onto whatever is in front of it), or press a button which will cause the seeker to attempt to the lock onto the the target and then uncage before launch (like we have in game), the latter being the normal mode of operation. In the case of the Tornado F.3 the button the pilot pressed to lock the seeker on was known as the “Target Acquisition Enable” (TAE) button.
The absolute minimum IR intensity the AIM-9L can detect is 15pw/cm -2 , but it needs about 35 pw/cm -2 in order to track a target reliably. It seems that when the AIM-9L was in development the Americans were concerned that the pilot couldn’t easily tell from the audio tone what the IR intensity of the target was; so the pilot may end up firing the missile without a strong enough return for it to track properly. They therefore implemented the “chirp” system into the missile (so called because it made the missile make a chirping sound when locked on). Basically (I’m simplifying a little) when the pilot attempted to lock the missile onto the target before launch the seeker would be repeatedly driven off-centre from the target, meaning that the target needed to have an IR intensity of about 70 cm/pw -2 before the missile could successfully lock on it, as the seeker wouldn’t be looking straight at the target. This would ensure that if the seeker had managed to obtained a lock it would easily be able to track the target after launch (because the IR intensity required for lock was much higher than that required for tracking).
The British decided that the chirp system “constitutes a very conservative confidence factor”, and that it wasn’t even needed because the pilot could use the sidewinder seeker symbol on the aircraft’s HUD to determine if the missile was tracking properly before launch. They therefore set about developing a way to remove the chirp system from the AIM-9L so that they could lock and fire it at greater range.
This is where the Tornado F.3 STF 113 de-chirping modification comes in (a proper British bodge job). They worked out that by modifying the wiring inside the LAU-7 missile launcher they could trick the AIM-9L seeker into thinking that the missile had already been launched (even though it was still attached to the aircraft) meaning the seeker could be made to lock-on to targets without the chirp system coming into play (as chirp was disabled as soon as the trigger was pulled). This modification to the launchers enabled the Tornado F.3 to lock onto targets with the AIM-9L at much greater ranges than other AIM-9L equipped aircraft could. According to the Tornado F.3 tactics manual the lock on range of the AIM-9L was essentially doubled under some conditions (which makes some sense as it now only needed half of the IR intensity it previously did in order to lock on).
I’m aware that this sounds like bit of a wild story, so here is the proof to back it up.
no,… this title goes to the early AIM-54’s.
AIM-54C’s are a bit harder to defeat, you need to pull 0.2G more than AIM-54A/B ^^"
Well, i concede. There could be made a point that Vympel might’ve done something to Russian made R-27s but that’s just pure and meaningless speculation.
That f14 gets 6 phoenixes with 120a seekerhead. Not that special really. Hopefully gaijin adds it with aim 120s but even then it’s more 13.7 material or 13.3 material not 14.0. It’s kinda doa
R27a exists at least which you could argue for r27ea being in the game but like it’s gonna be a worse r771 atp (other than ttt after motor burns out and if target maneuvers a lot)
As a prototype at best. I think “Agat” managed to reduce the weight of the seekerhead to the desirable amount but at that point R-77 was already undergoing tests so EA was dropped.
It is when French mains rub it into the faces of everyone else (like the dude in the Rafale thread that routinely spouts nonsense like “Rafale is just cleearly the best aircraft in the world” or actively work to deny buffs and changes for other nations.
like DirectSupport was actively arguing with Gunjob about a recently submitted report for the Typhoon to get Spice-250s. or Mutala making up reports to try and nerf the Typhoon. Thankfully, his last attempt blew up in his face and it resulted in a buff
Didnt see it got closed. Though I think that assessment is wrong and needs to challenged given the sources used were from before the EFT EK was even a thing.
But the point still stands. We dont even have our IRL weapons and the Rafale mains actively work to reject any buffs for the Typhoon
It refused sadly.
Yes. It got the APG-71 which is basically the pure power of the AWG-9 with the inferface of the APG-70. Really tight notch gates etc…
It has a range of 300km and has a TWS style of display with an imaging mode like TCS. Works in conjunction with the Radar, TCS, and RWR.
Aim-54C+ ECCM.
Sounds better than the F-15E, Hornet C Late, and most 13.7s. Sounds like it would fit in fine.
and Gunjobs response on the matter makes me thing that the other BRM that comment made a mistake:
So, like PIRATE?
ECCM isnt modeled in game.
i already agreed on the fact that other aircraft should also been buffed, when possible,…
i even tried to find, with you, possible loop around to force Gaijin in it:
be it Brimstone 1 ARH Mode 3 (for eurofighter, which seems to be your only preocupation),
or AIM-9M with the actual late variants of the missile to be used (we still don’t know what variant is used by gaijin)
With over 3x the range?
Also included are anti countermeasure abilities outside of ECCM. Like chaff and decoys.
Think of it as a 120 a seekerhead if I recall correctly. I’m sure mikey would correct me if I’m wrong, he’s the biggest fanboy of the f14 I’ve ever seen (tbf it is the tomcat)
But that doesnt change the fact that the Rafale is still getting buffs and everyone else isnt.
Which brings us back to threads like this.