france is a minor nation inflated perfomance stats are natural, hell your point is the exact opposite of what is likely, the su30sm2 is better for casual arb gameplay, its got a pretty decent flight model, the second best radar in the game and 12 of the second best missiles in the game, 90% of the advantages the mica provides over the r-77-1 is nullified by the fact holding datalink is extremely simple on the su30sm2, the rafale with its mediocre radar by current patch standards cannot do so as easily, sure the mica might be harder to notch, its still piss easy compared to dodging some datalinking at an off angle from their missiles. the only real advantage you have on the rafale is the flight model, which is great sure, but 12 vs 8 missile against an extremely strong radar means the su30sm2 is just a better fit for the meta.
“at least makes them competitive” absolutely absurd statement, like actually genuinely word out why you think the rafale is SO MUCH BETTER than the su30sm2, like the 3 things popping to mind are maw, mica and flight model, out of these 3 the flight model is the only major one. on the Sm2 you got an insane radar, 12 and 3 extremely strong missiles, the radar allows you to notch micas whilst datalinking, something the rafale struggles much more to do.
i love how you say this but yet post a screenshot in which the german ef2k has 90k more games only, despite germany getting a pretty significant upgrade with the ef2k aesa.
You can nullify this by flying above or higher than the enemy missile in terms of altitude, and the missile will go into sort of a SRC mode where it can be fooled by chaff regardless of datalink. Its pretty simple and pretty effective defeating the R-77-1’s worser pov. Meanwhile any smart rafale player can simply shoot their harder or more chaff to waste missiles and keep them at bay, and win the close range fight. Better fm better turning missiles, better seeker missiles, more chaff maws. It doesnt take that much effort(none at all) to turn in for a second and shoot your missiles, fly higher than the enemy missile, causing their datalink to be useless(even eurofighter datalinking would be usesless at this point) and easily give them a harder time. This goes the same for the eurofighter radars or gripen E radars that with past 90° gimbal limits to the side.
If they want to datalink they will have to shoot in a top down aspect, which is quite hard to if you’re jousting with a rafale. This hyped mechanic is just bringing it close. Missile limitations are still the same for most jets, they are just coming close to the rafale, does show indeed from this months stats that it hasn’t had a hard time at all, maintaining a significant good performance of K/S or K/D far significant than most jets.
The 4th most played top tier in the game is a minor nation in name only. Why do you think the player count for the Rafale is greater than all 3 minor nation Eurofighters and basically equal to that of the German Eurofighter? It was the. 2nd most popular top tier the month prior to the patch as well.
90% of ARH missiles are easy to notch due to the notch window being quite large. Datalink is not the key limiting factor. The fact that the short-medium range kinematics of the MICA.are superior to every other missile and that the missile is less sensitive to notching are more decisive factors then outright long range missile performance. I can let an Su-30SM2 shoot it’s whole load of missile load at me and as long as I maintain roughly 90 degrees to it then all of the missiles will miss. If you attempt the same thing against the Rafale/MICA…sure it can be done but there is a lot less wiggle room. This is especially important when there are multiple missiles.
The MICA can be fired from beyond the gimbal limit of the radar by using IRAF and switching to radar lock. Done at 20km or less. Off bore shots at extreme gimbal limits is something the Rafale is quite good at.
I never said that it was much better; I said that it is roughly equal and probably better for the average person and that is for a couple of reasons.
First off is the utility of the MICA basically dwarfs any tailor-made solution for the Su-30. Surely there might be some potential with the R-77 + R-27ER + R27ET combo where you can pick the perfect missile for the situation; in practice top tier gameplay happens too fast for most people to concerned about weighing those differences. The Rafale is a much simpler solution where the only thing to concentrate on is notching incoming missiles and firing back your own; which you have the best flight model in the game for doing that.
Second, when it comes to faffing about, the Su-30SM2 does not have 360 degree RWR coverage. There are large blindspots above and below the plane due to RWR coverage only being a 30 degree arc. This is not a concern for the Rafal.
A manager marked it as not bug and told me there are limited models in game that can be used but its clear that Gaijin can make it happen, new pilot model on Russian Navy planes and Chinese J10C is the clear evidence for that.
So is it possible that you guys review this report once again and forward it?
While that might seem to be true on the surface, lets look at the actual facts and not feelings.
There are CN and FR 14.0 mirages, which are 100% identical in A2A department.
And guess what, both K/B and K/D differ in month-by-month stats by single-digit percents, mind you not always in FR favor.
And yet J10C stats dont seem to be inflated at all (10A for comparison as a great jet for its BR):
Just a hunch I have with no evidence but I suspect the Rafale M was added alongside the newer additions so as to give developers a clean slate of statistics in order to compare the new additions with what is essentially a carbon copy of the Rafale C.
It’s not like they have a solid year of data on the Rafale and its impact on Air RB…also it’s not like the Rafale also wasn’t the best performing aircraft last month and by a large margin.
Because the statistics would be skewed since Rafale C players are playing spaded compared to the new additions, and typically after the devs come back from their holiday is when we see the most amount of fixes compared to any other point in the year, so it would be good for developers to know what deserves some fixes, I believe J-10C is already regarded in that boat.
Also, there’s going to be consideration to raising the maximum battle-rating to atleast 14.7 for top tier air rb, so looking at the statistics correctly would also help in that regard.
It could also be the case that developers would give some fixes to certain aircraft if developers want to bump them up to 14.7
Sadly I’ve noticed requests for much higher maximum battle-rating tends to fall on deaf ears and it’s already not a given that 14.7 was coming when it was asked.
Gaijin’s one big weakness is their strange phobia of decompressing BRs. So many problems in this game stem from “1.0 BR above is way too advanced to fight back against” and the solution is something they know of and have done before. Still they refuse to decompress until their stats indicate it is needed.
American Crying? No we asked for what is owed! There is a reason American AIM 120’s are used by more nations than the rest becasue they are that good. 32 to be estimated 14 official NATO nations use it as their primary a2a engager. The reason they suck in game is because they are using publicly accessible stats, not its real world classified stats! Other nations like to boast and then we find out they been lying the whole time! Looking in Russia’s and China’s direction! The MICA are used by only 2 European nations France and Greece. The rest are South East Asian and Middle Eastern Nations.
Genius, and how the hell do you expect Gaijin to use confidential information? Gaijin can add any AIM120 to the game in any version, and it will still be worse than the Meteor R77M and PL15.
