Rafale's reign in a top-tier RB?

Btw the tws issues isnt just for US planes with aesa
It affects everything that has aesa tws especially
Some radars are just absolutely horrible
Example j10c ive had the most issues with it
Even the lock is inconsistent

Nobody would make Su-30SM2’s reign in a top-tier RB? I’m surprised both this thread and the EFT Vs Rafale has went radio silence now lol.

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Nah.

When Rafale was introduced it didn’t had any real counterpart compare to SM2 and AESA Typhoons.

Current situtation is much balanced than before, although VnE buff and MICA range buff would be welcome addition to Rafale tho.

People were making about SU-30SM2 before it even left the dev server. Rafsle mains have also been crashing out over it and it hasn’t even been a month since the update.

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However the situation is arguably worse because for some reason gaijin added objective upgrades of 14.3s at 14.3.

I’d still rate the Rafale above everything but the SM2 until other ARH missiles receive the same seeker buff that Micas got.

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SM2 componsates seeker difference with quantity of missiles.

Not to mention new engines gave incredible flight performance which was the main issue with base SM.

Upon all jets SM2 is the last one that deserves seeker buff right now, as for the Aim-120’s and AAM4’s they can be buffed.

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Is the crashing out “Rafsle” mains in the room with us right now?

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This probably doesn’t qualify as crashing out, but there were already people asking for Rafale buffs in the changelog thread because the Gaijin finally added some counterparts to the Rafale.

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Some people will always hate Rafale no matter how many counterparts is added.

I guess bein a really good French Jet causes certain complex on some people.

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It’s probably a combo of the Rafale being stupidly dominant for so long and leftover resentment from the last year, when Rafale players would ask for a buff every time another nation got even the smallest hint of getting a buff.

Prime example is when AIM-120C-5 was added.

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Asking is okay as long it’s not French Mains who are asking.

Asking for a massive missile buff to the already best missile in game because a bunch of nations are getting a sidegrade missile is something.

French mains and victim complex, almost as iconic combo as France and a superiority complex.

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Wait until you face MICA IR and MICA NG missiles.

Man other nation players will loose their mind Xd.

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People who think playing the Rafale is that bad surely haven’t played some of the other 14.0-14.3 jets in this meta lol.

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The only thing I hate about Rafale is the limited top speed (1453km).

Irrc it should be higher than this but don’t know if it was reported.

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You’re leaving out a couple things. Here’s what truly happened.

  • AIM-120 users asked for the AIM-120C for the Typhoon and F-15E with multiple dev-server threads after it was added to the F-18s. Sounds like a lot of trouble was went through to obtain a missile that’s simply a side grade.

  • At the same time, AIM-120 users were asking for the HOBS performance to be fixed on the AIM-120s as well as terminal maneuverability

  • AIM-120 users consistently asked for the range of the AIM-120 to be fixed against maneuvering and non-maneuvering targets

  • Prominent AIM-120 users consistently stated that BVR is largely useless yet got upset when it was asked for the MICA-EM’s range to be fixed.

So in total, you have users asking for upgrades of missiles alongside multiple buffs in the form of increase both the range and maneuverability whilst stating that BVR is useless and HOBS performance is what really matters in air rb but still got upset when a certain someone asked for fixed range of the MICA.

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I don’t knock on anyone who asks for upgrades of missiles and multiple (realistic) buffs on the AIM-120s but it’s important to state the facts.

I think people had a lot of hope that it was just placeholder stats and that it wouldn’t end up as a sidegrade in the final version. Also nation mains being nation mains.

Not suprising that it did though, Gaijin has been lazy with implementations for a while now.

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Talking about buffs.

Is there any chance VnE report coming anytime soon?

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