A lot of disagreements we hold are done in private, a lot of us were straight up opposed to the addition of Rafale F3 due to fear of Gaijin outright skipping the early versions and going past it, never looking back.
Just because you don’t see it on forums, doesn’t mean his statement isn’t true.
This once again ties back to the habit of the French community, or at least whatever portion of it that yourself and other English speaking forum posters make up, of making consistently conflicting and consistently bad faith pubic facing arguments due to some underlying belief that it is in your best interest to pretend one thing publicly and believe one thing privately.
This statement is also something of a catch 22. Basically you are admitting that you guys believe one thing and say another, but that we shouldn’t believe what you are saying here.
No other English-speaking community behaves this way by the way. In the past two years that I and others have spent becoming one of the focal points of the English speaking Flanker/RU shitbox community have we ever tried to manipulate a narrative on the forums. Nor has saying negative things about the Flanker been a barrier to entry to any of the community.
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Is reading comprehension a problem for you? Mythic stated he has only seen one person from the French community arguing against the 8 MICAs, I stated there are more, he just hasn’t seen them as they communicate it privately, nowhere in that statement is there anything that indicates hypocriscy as I did not even state which community members argued against 8 MICAs in order for you to make that conclusion.
It’s consistent with a long established pattern and consistent with what you have voiced privately with me in regards to your conduct on the forums.
Once again leaning into the idea that “everyone else is already doing it” without any proof.
Did I say anywhere earlier that I myself have argued against 8 MICAs?
Let’s stay on topic instead of going on tangents for whatever agenda you may have.
It’s only relevant because one of the constant deflections you make is that you and others hold different beliefs in private than you do on the forums.
Since you see the forums as the primary means on how the developers gauge the will of the community, then the fact that apparently only one person has argued against the 8x MICA here shows that the de-facto opinion of the “French community” is that the plane needed to be buffed as much as possible in order to be competitive / waffle stomp the game into oblivion.
as you did,… it’s the answer of a shepherd to the sheperdess,… (french expression, translated)
I said they voiced it in private, I never stated they voiced on this issue in public at ALL. The point I’m making is that there are community members that do voice their opinion against 8 MICAs in private, they just don’t voice their opinion in public on this matter.
ah yes
the classic let me lie to buff my vehicles
because that “rule” doesnt exist
if it did both f15a and f14a or b would have HMD
US F-5C Flares? Exportation that came back from OTHERS than US F-5C
YAK-141 R-27/R-60 + Radar? not even tested!
SRAAM Missiles? never entered service
so please,… that rule exist,… and even CM and Tech Mod. talked about it
bug-report it then
how is that relevant to a rule about HMD?
heres an example of how bad this logic is
I can make up a rule about planes with MICA not being allowed to have HMD
and if you say thats fake ill just reply with bug report it
The rule doesn’t exist. It’s entirely at the developers discretion. Let’s consider the implications of devs actually not implementing the following.
F-5C without flares just becomes worlds most obnoxious 9.3 premium aircraft. Or just a free kill to any relatively potent missile.
Yak-141 gets deleted from the game or just has no ordinance.
Rafale doesn’t get 8 MICAs. Oh no…it only gets as many missiles as the F-16C while being better in every possible way upon introduction. It doesn’t get HMD? Oh no it would still have the best radar for the past year and still the best flight performance and best HOBS radar missile.
Where is the AMRAAM on the F-15A if this policy exists? Why is the F-15A outfitted with a mixture of early weaponry and late countermeasures?
Where is the Grom 1? Why was that trialed but then removed from the game before it could ever become live?
It’s because it’s not a firm policy. It’s at the discretion of the developers. And the developers bought the line that the Rafale needed HMD + 8 MICA before even a patch cycle because the French community cried bloody murder that the plane would be a DOA side grade to Mirage 2000 if it didn’t.
gaijin added aim 120 A,B,C but not enought competitive vs mica I don’t understand why no nerf it or add same value missile for other nations french mains come with mica is bad in long range why other fox3 missile no? is esay to evade from long range…
gaijin added aim 120 a/b and it was competitive with mica
so they artificially nerfed the aim 120 but have yet to nerf the mica
so you’re only accepting things that are relevant now? but those are relevant, as they used the SAME argumentation than what it have been used for both HMD and additional MICA’s
you’re saying that we lie about a “rule” that Community Managers talked about, regularly:
So saying that this “rule” doesn’t exist is a blatant lie you’ve achieved.
and because you don’t know how the game work about adding new stuff:
meaning that if you want those HMD you talked about for F-15/F-14, you have to do a Bug-report!
Now,… that you know that Rule exist, and how to make it for other stuff,… go on,…
but all those informations were accessible before you were lying about the rule.
You have yet to answer my question on either of those vehicles. The rule can still stand if none of those vehicles were actually reported.