But there’s no telling for instance what/how many other buffs that Gaijin would have done in place of the two extra MICAs because whatever metric they’re going by determined the Rafale needed another 24 reports implemented after the HMD/8 MICAs were done. So rather than 24, could have been 34 on a Rafale F2.
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Again u dodge everything and start to babble about the win rates of props.
That was 19 hours ago lol just let that discussion go.
I now have the new question, should they switch the f3 in game to the f4 very later on with the minor twerks it would need to be the f4. And add a proper f3 or 2 similar to how they added the f18A right before the f14a and b
tested 2014, being integrated onto Hawaii ANG now
Scorpion HMD funny enough
shrug
Dunno, just other stuff (Su-34 for some reason) has worked better and been more fun for me. I agree the Rafale is ridiculously strong right now and definitely needs to be pulled back into line but attacking the plane and the missiles is only one part of the equation to properly balance the tier.
this is false
if it was true f15a should have HMD
and I believe the f14s
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Do you have a link to their respective reports?
iirc VTAS was shot down as an option for the F-14 back on the old forums due to only having been tested, and nobody ended up trying a second time when the F-15A was added or with the new bug reporting site came about and invalidated all prior open bug reports.
Not that it really matters, seeing as the Rafale got its HMD immediately in WT and did not require a bug report.
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The thing with dual pylons is that nobody really asked for them. What everyone was asking for was a flight model that matches a good portion of the metrics that we know about the Flanker IRL.
The double pylons were basically a Gaijin bandaid on fixing the flight model. And while the flight model has been made better…they actually made it better in basically the wrong way. In order to force the plane to kind of sort of match it’s low speed sustained turn rate…they just took the whole curve and lifted it across the board, so it’s calculated turn rate is just straight better than the IRL counterpart.
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It always had the HMD, at least on release (not sure about on Dev)
What It didn’t have Is of course the 2 more micas and the additional flares (only 32/35 at First, 50/52 currently)
Would have preferred to actually be able to enjoy flying my F-2 with out being curb stomped instead of having to wait for copy slop to be competitive. Especially a copy paste Raf, I despise that thing so much at this point I honestly don’t think I could stomach playing it.
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To add a bit of context, the french community was quite split on the matter.
HMD was what it was, and as DirectSupport said they have that “added if tested” rule, but the 2 extra MICA is quite frankly overkill
We knew the plane would be either OP or very badly modelled the moment they added 3R though, going with F2 could have been more reasonable.
The only reason i can think of for adding this variant was to give france a boost in the CAS department (Rafale F2 does not carry AASM laser or IR), as it had quite weak load outs at the time… Which didn’t matter anyway because they added AASM to M2K a patch after
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Classic Gaijin, overdoing a new addition, breaking the game in the progress and then refusing to fix it for almost a year
I’ve seen a grand total of 1 person from “the french community” consistently argue against the 8 MICA’s, the rest have been arguing in bad faith and actively trying to overbuff the Rafale since the dev server, so either the vast majority you’re referring to dont partake on the forums, or you’re lying to try to make the Rafale mains that have comprehensively destroyed top tier air for their own god complex look better by trying to rewrite history.
As a matter of fact, you yourself were only supportive of the removal of the 2 extra MICAs IF they buffed the MICA to compensate…
Soooo were you arguing in bad faith back then cuz you knew it was OP and still didnt want to support it being nerfed historically for balance, or are you lying now?
Only you can’t be wrong, I guess, lol.
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1? funny,…
i thought i made it clear that Rafale C F.2.2 or/& M F.1 would have been enough for the current game.
yet Gaijin gave us a F.3R, with experimental and export mods (something they have done for F-5C too remember?)
so i’m in favor of getting a Rafale with only 6 MiCA (as F2.2 never had more).
but let’s also consider that MICA-EM is actually pretty nerfed for balance too,… it still doesn’t reach it’s IRL stats on every parts. (as for every missile in-game)
so,… it seems normal to ask for a nerf/buff when other missiles will only get buffs.
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A lot of disagreements we hold are done in private, a lot of us were straight up opposed to the addition of Rafale F3 due to fear of Gaijin outright skipping the early versions and going past it, never looking back.
Just because you don’t see it on forums, doesn’t mean his statement isn’t true.
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This once again ties back to the habit of the French community, or at least whatever portion of it that yourself and other English speaking forum posters make up, of making consistently conflicting and consistently bad faith pubic facing arguments due to some underlying belief that it is in your best interest to pretend one thing publicly and believe one thing privately.
This statement is also something of a catch 22. Basically you are admitting that you guys believe one thing and say another, but that we shouldn’t believe what you are saying here.
No other English-speaking community behaves this way by the way. In the past two years that I and others have spent becoming one of the focal points of the English speaking Flanker/RU shitbox community have we ever tried to manipulate a narrative on the forums. Nor has saying negative things about the Flanker been a barrier to entry to any of the community.
press “X” for doubts
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