Keep in mind, stat-wise rafail is currently the best plane in the game. Dethrone it, and guess what, 2nd and 3rd best planes are the mirages, currently performing better than any 14.3 or 14.0, period. So its more like shifting the issue IMO.
To be more precise, if rafale becomes more of a sidegrade to mirage, same-ish in overall “power”, well the mirage currently rapes everything anyway, so what then?
flawed ones, still
+/-2% huh ?
Yep, my point exactly. This month (October) it is 3%, the month before 1%, the month before 1% again, the month before almost 6, the month before… it was different patch, too old to consider.
In fact turns out to be 2.65%, thou I shall stand corrected. The FR playerbase is within 2.65% of “second worst after US”, as evident.
on similar amount of spawns (difference of 26 spawns):
win rate : 61.9% / 51.7% = 1.197 that’s 19.7% more win results, not 2%
KD rates : 1.28 / 1.2 = 1.066 > that’s 6.6% more results, not 2%
and deaths wise, French mirage 2000-5 dies 4.12% less than chinese one on the same period, not 2%
(btw, learn to do maths,…)
That’s still not enough of a difference to definitively say that France has better players overall.
and
is enough to say that comparing stats directly is clearly not something people should do, let alone use to ask for nerfs.
You seem to have fallen into a comman pitfall of winrates, pretty childish mistake, but generally understandable.
Oh, GB EF has 60% WR and IT one is only 43%, the difference is huge, must be that IT players are sooo much worse… or are they? Or maybe one of those typhoons plays VS FR non-stop, and the other does not? Could this be the case?
On the contrary, GE and IT ones have the same WR and the same KB, both much lower than GB one. Black magic, no less.
Simple as, if you think about it for a second. You yourself have just proven the 2%, by the way, thanks for that I guess.
Take a wild guess as to why the French Mirage has a better winrate, ohhhh wait it’s matchmade with the rafale consistently, that explains it given the extremely similar K/D and death count
you don’t have those stats,…
take a wild guess: what rafale in 13.0/14.0 match up?
Idk if the Rafale fans realise, the more number crunching that is done, the more that nerfs are justified
14.0 → 14.3 far more than 13.0
Oh btw, have you seen French teams pre-toptier in the last like, almost a year?
Yeah, those people are surely just good, somehow. Not simply chasing the current thing.
Its highly unlikely anything they add in the december patch is going to dethrone or even match the Rafale either, and the community at large is done playing your stupid games of pretending it will or that you and the french community at large wont start crying the moment the dev server forum section opens about the Rafale being “obsolete” again regardless of the impact of new additions.
If we take the most extreme potential additions barring 5th gen (improvements being relative to current latest variants of the jets in-game, not relative to the Rafale):
F-15EX: better radar, larger missile loads, potentially improved FM
→ Still stuck with the garbage rod that is the AIM-120
→ FM is still inferior
Su-35: better radar, better fm (probably the closest potential competitor unless major missile changes occur that shift the meta)
→ Still gets violated by the Rafale FM-wise
EFT T4: Better radar
→ Still stuck with the garbage rod that is the AIM-120
J-10C: sidegrade radar, better FM (I think?), better missile load (I think?)
→ degraded HOBS capability for the other improvements, potentially making the jet a downgrade to the J-10A in the WT meta
→ Unclear if FM improvements will make it match/outperform the Rafale, but its unlikely
J-16: Better radar, better FM
→ HOBS capabilities are likely still at J-11B level
→ Almost no info for properly modelling the jet (not sure we even have a pic of the cockpit or even know the name of the radar)
→ FM likely still inferior to Rafales
Gripen E: Better radar, better FM, better missile load:
→ Still stuck with the garbage rod that is the AIM-120
→ FM is still inferior
This also skips over the fact that for the US/RU TT’s, it functionally kills the devs ability to add “new” top tier jets beyond 5th gens, making all future gen 4/4.5 jets filler content for lower BR’s. Also means the devs would have to rush the latest variants of jets for multiple nations instead of expanding on game mechanics for top tier jets, which is just bad for the games longevity.
The entirety of air battles present and future revolving solely around the Rafale is just bad for the game. Its vastly more reasonable to nerf the Rafale to the level of the current content (as is historically accurate), and give air battles and the devs some breathing room and balance after a whole year of this insanity.
take a wild guess: at which br bracket 14.0 plays 9/10 times?
That’s just every tom, dick and harry wanting to meta-whore for the Rafale, sales for the F1C-200 have increased 200x since the release of the Rafale, it’s possibly even in the realm of peak F-4S or A-10 sales at this point
Actually, I am curious; @Cpt_Bel_V when you refer to the French playerbase as a whole, are you referring to all players grinding/playing France currently, or just the elite 10% of the playerbase who consistently played before the addition of Rafale?
Because currently, a massive chunk of active French players have only grinded it for the MICA & Rafale, and their mediocre skill would bring down the average from the supposed ‘french master race’ that you seem to go on about.
Anyway, the point is - if you nerf the rafail into oblivion, the new best plane in the game, aka the meta, would be 14.0 mirage. Both of them in equal measure.
Which, to me, is indicative of a larger issue, given that those already do and of course will surpass ALL current (and tommorow’s new one) 14.3’s.
Somehow.
Translation. Its been an entire year and they still havent added counters to the Rafale CF4 yet
Well the issue is that the MICA is an inherently one-sided ARH missile, given it’s different (biased) seeker coding and TVC, it presents the ability to ignore multipathing, hit ridiculous deflection shots, and just overall HOBS tomfoolery that only the Russians get, albeit in the form of R-73.
The only true, meaningful balance needs to be viewed in long and short run, with the latter being a nerf to HMD and MICA count, and long run balancing being the addition of NATO & Chinese HOBs capability, preferably through ‘dumbed down’ next gen IR missiles, but who knows.
TLDR: MICA is overperforming compared to competition and needs balancing