Rafale's reign in a top-tier RB?

We could already have those with the missiles in-game, it’s just that Gaijin clearly doesn’t want BVR to be the meta, as long as the seekers are laughably easy to notch, WVR will forever be meta.

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Imo, they are not willing to change how effective BVR is simply because they they don’t want to rework their gamemodes, they are too lazy to work on non house-garden sized maps, and their previous attempt at making smaller lobbies was also laughable, with it being a “switch” option in the menu that works 1/10 times at best.

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Il guess its because the radar (missile) is moving so it doesnt care about speed over earth.

Not sure as im only an electrician not a physicist

But it deffinitly works. Notching fakours over 900 = ass twitch as it still.passes real close

Under 900 they float on by nowhere near hitting 😎

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“players are skilled” No they aren’t I’m bad at the game and even I have 2-2.5 K/D with the rafale it’s just stupidly easy to play and overpowered compared to the bricks or wood radar planes other nations have.

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AV-8B Plus, F-18C Late, F-15E all share good stats in your service.
It’s not just the Rafale.

Just fly cold and they’ll lose track extremely easy.

36 in the AV-8B plus isn’t worth considering, and the K/D ratio of the F/A-18C and F-15E are not even close. Especially if we take a look at win rates. Keep in mind IK the F/A-18C inside and out, similarly with the F-15, since I have around 500 matches in between the A,C,E. Those stats are not just “got the plane and started playing it”. Meanwhile the rafale is literally it, grinded it out with the F1C and hopped in it and destroyed everything in my path. Something needs to be done with that aircraft and missile. Changing the seeker to the stock would be a start, every missile uses the same seeker, except the MICA-EM, even though the Derby and the R-77 are both similarly “crippled” missiles as the mica is when it comes to medium-long range.

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KDR margin of error is huge.
Unless your KDR exceeds margin of error, which it doesn’t, it’s conjecture.
When I say Jagdpanzer IV is OP based on a cross-analysis, and someone wants to dare look at my stats, they will see its KDR is over 50% more than the next best case-mate tanks I use.

The KDR in F-18A and Gripen C is over 50% more than my other aircraft.

So unless you are claiming F-15E, F-18C, and AV-8B Plus are OP as well, Rafale isn’t by your own stats.
Your stats betrayed your words.

What are you even trying to prove?
That the rafale isn’t Op?
That It’s actually balanced and the only reason why It has disproportionaly better stats Is because of the mythical goated french players?

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“Mythical skill”
Meanwhile on Statshark:


Dude’s post is implying Statshark’s data is wrong.

Frags per spawn:

RP per game: [The one that actually has less skill involved in the stat than the other two.]

In a cross analysis 13.7s - 14.3.
Acceleration sub-sonic [yes, this is with missiles equipped which cause drag]: Tied with F-18C, and F-15JM. F-15E & Typhoon are notably faster. So a tied with the 3rd place dudes.
Acceleration to mach 1.5: 3rd.
Top Speed: Mach 2/1400kph IAS; Slowest.
Missile count: 8; Average.
Personal preferences of missiles [personal opinion, not fact, and not my opinion]… MICA EM and R-77-1.
Radar: AESA, fast scan.
STR below mach 1: 2nd place.
STR above mach 1: 4th? place alongside J-11B and Su-27SM.

So currently, I see a lack of evidence proving anything one way or the other.

hm weird how britain has better winrates at 13.7 and 14.0
and yet france has a way higher win rate at 14.3

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Doesn’t account for high speed pull too, that’s very important for notching

and guess what plane has the most pull and energy retention at high speed, high alt

correct it is the rafale

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Nice giving Rafale even more advantage than I gave it.
This is with Rafale having less fuel than the F-15E. This also doesn’t account for drag because drag isn’t modeled on these graphs. Drag impacts Rafale more than it impacts F-15E or Typhoon because their engines produce notably more thrust for the drag of the missiles.

On top of this, it’s more difficult to pull sustained in Rafale compared to Typhoon and F-15E in air RB due to how instructor controls the aircraft.

Edit:
In-practice tests:

Spoiler




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So how much longer is this ridiculous situation going to last? It’s been about a year now.

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French bias.

It’s a shame Rafale isn’t Russian, as I’d love to see this thread exploding and having 10k replies in matter of a week, with all of the usual bias judges telling us how this thing proves the bias.

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Oh get over yourself, the russians could never design a plane as dominating as the Rafale.
And the Rafale is realistic so its not like russian bias where we have to make shit up to make it competitive

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I’ve found the keywords to spawn you quickly, nice.
Once again, you don’t need to add fakes in order to be biased.

You don’t need to but it’s much funnier when one tech tree is so technologically behind that you have to make up stuff just to create parity

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Okay and ?
People are playing the game and are interested in it’s balance. If something isn’t balanced it will create a problem, where something being real or not plays absolutely no role.

It plays no role for gameplay that’s true, it’s just extensively funny in the greater context of the game