My distinction was “past a certain point” I’d say anything like F-15E and better in airframe it comes down to missiles more.
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I think its more that the Eurofighter doesnt really have an identity right now that it can play off of. Like the Rafale has a great FM, sensors and the best Midrange HOBS missile in the game. Those things just work together beautifully. The SU30SM might be a flying brick but it has a decent radar and 12 of some of the best FOX3s in the game. Its not a Rafale contender but there is a clear job that i can do very well. For the Eurofighter every job the plane could do gets hindered by some of its equipment. Cant really do high altitude BVR, because 6 missiles is too few for the insanely inconsistent radar and you cant really go close range either, because your missiles are not maneuverable at all.
The Rafale really benefits from all its components coming together in the best way possible
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I wonder how the Golden Eagle would compare to the EFT, would the AESA give it an edge over it?
why?
it is still an F-15C so it has worse kinematics for the early game missile joust than the EF and once you get into the mid phase of a match you are only using your HMD anyways so the radar being aesa dosent really makes a difference
Itll probably be better at BVR crowd control thanks to more missiles and the AESA but its still an F15 with similar limitations
If GeneralLee2K report to be implemented with Golden Eagle arrival, I think it would make F-15C have stand out FM compared to F-15E.
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those buffs should also somewhat affect the F-15E FM tho, since it is the exact same airframe (with more thrust and weight)
That shouldn’t happen, there’s charts for the f15e that’s separate from the c
you’re french right ?
But it still got recently increased to 14.0 and has a better K/D and winrate than most 14.3s
as :
- a human being?
- a player main?
maybe,… but i don’t see what this information would bring to the discussion,…
Rafale right now its overpowered with his 50G missils(bests for mid and short range), good speed of Rafale and best radar ingame for me.
I think Rafale should be BR 14.7 but Gaijin need to put more planes for this br to downgrade Rafale.
15.0 minimum br for it tbh
watch the video fully and understands that in this video the guy made 6 kills with Rafale, but looking on the stats, it shows the following at 11:46
him with 6 kills
1 rafale alive with 2 kills
2 rafale deads with 1 kill each
3 rafale deads with 0 kill each
so out of 7 rafales, only 10 kills were made in this match, and only 28.5% of Rafale survived showing high attrition rates.
the ennemy had the same amount of aircrafts still alive at 7:14 and 8:45
at the end there was 12 kills made by blue team, for only 11 kills made in red team.
so again,… Rafale is not that unbalanced (yes it’s best aircraft right now, but this is likely to change)), but the problem mostly depend from “skill issue” in community side.
All those mental gymnastics just to say this nonsense?
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nonsense?
ok,… pull me one game where everyone in your team does hold 2KD+ in the aircraft they’re actually playing.
you’ll not found one!
why? because “skill issue” is present all over the place,…
but let’s take the video one for exemple:
Listing of players kills and deaths with aircraft name:
Spoiler
FeetPics - 165 kills / 35 deaths - Rafale
muygoisai - 100 kills / 86 deaths - Rafale
TimeT0fail86301 - 34 kills / 107 deaths - F-15E
(i don’t type chinese, sorry)
OmegaWolfDog@psn - 47kills / 89 deaths - F/A-18C late (USA)
PhilMyCollins - 71kills / 134 deaths - F-18C (Sweden/Finland)
I JavierSM I@live - 161kills / 103 deaths - Rafale
fluffyduck2268@live - 135kills / 197 deaths - Rafale
LET5 get DRUNK@live - 356kills / 424deaths - F-15E
dowblekill - 147kills / 61 deaths - JAS-39C UK (and got 3 KD on Typhoon FGR4)
Neo2987 - 124kills / 124 deaths - Typhoon FGR4
SealClub13a - 188kills / 63 deaths - Rafale
NomercyBro - 29kills / 56 deaths - F/A-18C Late
PORKY37779 - 29kills / 35 deaths - F/A-18C MLU 2 (Finland/Sweden)
DrearyMars38@live - 58kills / 75 deaths - Rafale
TheBiGothGirl - 60kills / 77 deaths - F-2000A
Out of 15 accounted players(i still don’t type chinese) there is:
1/15 “Elite” player (1/6 Rafale) - KD over 5
2/15 “Good” players (2/6 Rafale) - KD over 3
2/15 “OK” players (1/6 Rafale) - KD over 1
1/15 “On-Par” player - KD at 1 exactly
9/15 “Sub-Par” players (2/6 Rafales) - KD under 1
How can’t we acknowledge that the level of gameplay in WT community is so damn bad, that aircraft having a bit of an edge become OP as God would be?
I mean, Who cares?
You’re Just trying to find excuses to undermine the issue and justify your favourite broken vehicle.
If you can’t see how the rafale Is unbalanced then you’re either blind or ragebaiting
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if that :
was true,…
you all takes stats from diverse stats services online, and make it your reality, as if every EF/F-15/Su-30SM were fighting like professionnal military pilots,…
That’s not the case,…
i play several country in-game, and i have no problem to get similar stats for 95% of them,… simply because i’m not dumbfounded while playing,…
you all ignore the main issue,… and tomorrow Gaijin will add some J-10C, with PL-15’s 150km range and a better seeker → you all are going to cry about it,… similarly to what you’re doing today with Rafale, and what you did Yesterday with F-15E’s
i mean it, because this repeat itself since 2013!!!
The last time the game was this in favor of a top tier plane was likely mig-23mld vs f4e
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and before that it was F-4C, then T-2(k), then Mig-19PT,…
i mean no offense, but we got it,…
and at each time what do we have is players crying over the “Top Meta Vehicule”, without taking into account the feeble level of the community, neither did they take into account the given gameplay style from Gaijin.
the former of which, accurately gave us maps according to surveys in which most of the community said it was “boring to fly for nothing”,… and now what? the aircraft with the most versatile missile in short/medium ranges destroys you all despites your long-ranged AIM-120C?
all i’m asking, from this community, is to think again,… with greater accuracy and larger mindset!
but this is unlikely to change too,…