Rafale's reign in a top-tier RB?

nerf it , eurotyphoon radar is ass and has a limit capacity of amaraams theres no reason to favour rafaele more

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Hang on

Are you saying if i loop the fox 3 loses all tracking?

Loop while in the notch fox 3 stops tracking you yes

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My main playstyle is shooting 120A/C into furball from 30-20km while flying 8000m-10000m high, many just lost track by a simple turn. In real life most of the furball should be dead since they put themselves in such a low energy state.

Rafale is now again the 2nd best dogfighter after the eurofighter in a gunfight, and gets to be the best with missiles by a larger margin than before. (weight was massively reduced)

Make it 14.7 even if it gets to sit there alone. (I’m not biased, rafale is one of my favourite and most played top-tiers)

Correction, it might be the best gunfighter, might be even marginally better than the eurofighter now. I’m not 100% sure

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“400kg” = “massively reduced”

it’s not our fault if EF-2000 is about 11tons empty, and Rafale about 9.5tons, based on DirectSupport bug report, instead of 9.9tons based on Jane’s documentation.

400kg is a massive difference you know? I’m all for realistic changes but the jet is completelly OP, make it higher BR and I’ll shut up

im 95% sure there is an outstanding bug report to reduce the Typhoons weight by a similar amount. That was submitted about 8 months before the Rafale’s report.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/D32jwFfYLKDZ
you mean that one? it have been done accordingly to the Bug-Mod.

The complaints here are not that the Rafale is realistic, the complaints are about that the Rafale seems to get one Buff/Fix after the next while the reports on the Typhoon get completely ignored

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you’re not the 1st one to tell me that → but fixes for EF-2000 are also done.
see above

the issue is that they didnt re tune the drag to make it match its IRL turn rate with the reduced weight

There is another internal report I think

But if its weight is accurate, then we’ll just have to get the STR, ITR and supercruise speed buffs instead. Along with CAPTOR-E, ASRAAM/IRIS-T. MMW Brimstones/Spears, PIRATE overhaul, cockpit fixes, etc etc To maintain parity with the Rafale

The plane is also unrealistic and overperforms against known performance metrics. I am currently working on subsequent bug report relating to energy retention and turn rate at high mach numbers. There is new source that I have been made aware of but using it in bug reports wont be feasible until I get a response from Dassault.

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in absolute snail pace compared to the Rafale.
And its specifically annoying if the already grossly overperforming top dog of top tier gets buff after buff

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“Manufacturer propaganda” incoming /s

Usually minor ones that dont really impact a lot. Took 9 months to get the HMD better modeled, but the HUD/Cockpit is still riddled with issues.

Many FM changes are still outstanding

A bug they had fixed with the IRST is back, preventing any missile being fired via IRST (even when the radar auto-switches)

The Radar is still underperforming quite a bit and Im thinking the fourth “ghosting/reliability” bug report for it is due

Its A2G loadout is just a joke. Not a single report in that regard has been addressed, there is literally a dozen GBU types missing, let alone more recent reports for things like Spice-250s, Brimstone 2s, Spear-Glide, etc etc

So to claim “EF-2000 fixes are still done” sure, technically you are right. But in practice, there is a long long list of report

Over 100 at last count

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Typhoon Profile: ECRS Radars Introduce Electronic Attack Functionality – Journal of Electromagnetic Dominance - published the 30/04/2025

To my understanding, it’s still not in service for most in-game countries

the ECRS mk0 have been serviced for Kuwait (6 units) and Qatar (10 units) on Tranche 3 EF-2000
(based on wikipedia)

Europeans countries only made trials onto a testbed EF-2000
ECRS Mk2 1st prototype have been delivered in 2023 (for UK EF-2000)
maiden flight was made august 2025
https://www.eurofighter.com/news/redefining-radar

ECRS Mk1 only start to be delivered for German and Spanish forces

and yet, nothing for Italy (so only Captor-M)

Rafale has HOBS IR and ARH missile. The Typhoon does not. ASRAAM and IRIS-T would give HOBS parity to the missile already present on the Rafale, MASSIVELY closing the WVR advantage it has that makes it the number 1 aircraft in the game.

Never been an issue before for anything else. Or remind again, was the HMD and 8x MICA fit actually used in service on the French Rafale F3s?

So… If you are saying CAPTOR-E cannot be fitted to the Germany, Italian and British Typhoons because its only been tested… On actual airframes and is actually in service with 2 other nations… That is highly hypocritical

Though we all know its because the Frenchies are scared of other nations getting equal or better radars and they would loose their easy win nature.

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ok, but those missiles performances are far better than the current Rafale ones, even more considering you also got AIM-120C’s already