even more direct comparison is f15A not getting HMD
Again, like I explained before, the majority of Rafale’s performance statistics do not come from French mains, but rather experienced top tier players. “French mains” are irrelevant here. This thread is slowly moving from whatever issues one has with the overall performance of the aircraft with whatever issues one has with a set group of people which as far as I’m aware is not allowed on forums.
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Easily explainable by the fact that from my experience, getting good K/D’s in top tier is just harder due to the randomness of billions of missiles in the air in 16v16. Your team is far more likely to just explode sometimes and you die in a 2v9. In earlier jets or props you can slow the game down and control who you want to fight more easily. The fact that this player is matching their K/D with much earlier jets with not much RB time indicates to me the Rafale is very strong.
Since I play RB more, maybe my data would be more useful if you want to compare my K:D’s and kills per battle. Except for the gripen which I mostly spammed when it was by far the best plane in the game, my stats for earlier jets that I regularly play are significantly better such as the Strikemaster, Yak-15, Canberra Mk. 6, J7E etc. Even then in terms of top tier ARH missile slingers my Rafale performance is far beyond everything else I have used.
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My point is that I am inexperienced and can already out-perform these experienced players. I used you as an example since you are the one pushing this point. You can take pretty much anyone with half a modicum of experience and put them in a Rafale and they will statistically outperform their average in basically any other top tier plane.
Simply put there is nothing else in the game that really comes close to competing with it at an individual or team level. It is not even allowed in Air Superiority tournament because the organizers realize that every match would be 4v4 symmetrical Rafale games from start to finish.
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F-15A not getting AMRAAM is a better parallel. The current version we have is a bastardized version of F-15A MSIP without all of the MSIP upgrades. The version we have in-game should have AMRAAM.
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This would be a strong point if it weren’t for the fact that the Eurofighter and Su-30SM also isn’t allowed.
true, but there is more evidence for f15a testing HMD than the rafale version we have having HMD
My only worry with the F-15A getting AMRAAMs would be it potentially going up to 13.7. Maybe you could make a case for it going to 13.3 if it didn’t get an HMD, but i feel it’d be a little busted at that BR as well since the Sparrows seem to be the only thing really holding it back from my perspective.
The Rafale had tested HMD from the very beginning from the first iteration, just simply not put into service until F.4.
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I am not saying that the F-15 should get AMRAAMs. We are just using it as an example of the developer leaving out some capability for the sake of balancing the game. Just because something was tested with something does not mean that the plane needs to have it in the game.
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All rafale standards tested hmd. They just didn’t have them in service. French f3r in service didn’t have 8 micas for example. But French testbed had 8 micas. Etc etc
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meanwhile you argue against CAPTOR-E because “its only been tested”
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Heck, Both SRAAMs and Red tops should be all-aspect, but arent in game
MMW (enough said)
etc etc
Plenty of examples of it being done even for loadouts
He wasn’t arguing for anything from what I can see. He just asked a question
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Hes brough it up a few times,
Kizvy is right, bringing up that none are in service does not mean I am against their addition. Most of the times I’ve brought it up were to counter false claims that they are in service.
Here specifically I am inquiring on the developer’s criterias. Nothing more.
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read again,… he’s not
“5th” is not the “best”
even if you wanna put an average of the acceleration of rafale over and under Mach1, the Rafale is the 4th, as
EF-2000 is 1st.
F-15i Ra’am is 2nd
F-15J(M) is 3rd
They need to buff BVR closer to realistic level, the current fur ball meta is basically death sentence in reality. Modern Fox 3 won’t lose track just for a loop, need to force the players to notch properly by buffing all the speed gate and inertial guidence.
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I didnt specify…