But i didn’t
that’s pretty much what you did
“no the rafale is not op, it only has good stats because it’s players are actually good”
In 3 months it will still be overpowered, unless a big nerf happens, or if a vehicle even more broken gets added in the winter major.
Either way, for the december patch, the rafale will have already terrorized air battles for a year straight
Rafale has been in the game for over 9 months. Its OP claims are in the last 2 months.
T-80BVM was in the game for almost a year before “T-80BVM OP” started as a trend, and that trend didn’t end until sometime in 2024 after T-90M’s introduction and the largely sidegrade 2A7V.
It could be months, or it could be a year of skilled players.
I’m guessing months because air fluctuates more than ground does.
Next year will have gen 5 aircraft firing next-gen IR missiles as well.
Also here’s a like for your civil post. I may disagree, but your post is well made and I like that.
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MICA-EM is the same exact defeating tactics of all Fox-3 missiles.
Notch chaff, multipath.
The biggest threat of Rafale, F-2A, Typhoon, etc is if and when they decide to shove an IR missile into your exhaust, if you let them get to close.
That’s exactly what they’ll do against gen-5s too.
Rafale OP is not a trend tho its a satistical fact. Ofc the topic itself gains more traction if Gaijins response to a extremely well performing aircraft is to keep buffing it repeatedly while leaving the other 14.0s and 14.3 with severe limitations and bugs.
MICAs can be defeated in a similar manner to other FOX3s but no other plane can swap from defense to offense as seamlessly as the Rafale. Aim120s lack the off the rails pull and the Su30 doesnt have the necessary agility. The MICA is just perfect for the current furball meta and with its radar and Flightmodel the Rafale is no slouch in BVR either.
Yes France has historically a really good playerbase but the Rafale currently outperforms less played, great jets played by equally capable players like the UK Typhoon
Rafale is fine
Fine ly mincing the competition in top tier
Bad karnas new vid says it all
Rafale number 1
Mirage number 2
Mirage is a very mid FM yet sits in 2nd place.
Rafale best FM with god tier micas… what could be the issue?
The only bad thing about Rafale is the VnE but then again a report should be coming soon to buff it.
Hehe when do the other jets get treated?
When Gaijin wants it, but hey at least they fixing some of the EFT’s issues (not related to flight performance nor armaments) :D
I’m trying to get outlier data here, tbf, indeed Rafale is overpowered, but also due to the fact, the team composition of British Typhoon is more favourable due to France always being in their team, here I take British Tornado ADV that are usually also teamed up with France, although Tornado wasn’t the most popular aircraft in the game, it’s still the most overpeforming aircraft in its BR Bracket since FGR.2 and F-4JUNK also sits at the same BR despite being absolute worser. So, everytime Rafale being overpowered it also benefits its teammates, usually for the British. And this is also the case why US and Germany will always had worst stats, it isn’t just the noobs that are causing the problem, it is how the match works, because if you get mirrored, US and Germany will zero-sum the stats itself.
Usually the minor the nation, the better the player performance due to how little the playerbase, so skilled player will have more impact on its stats rather than the major nation which have so many noobs (I’m really sorry have to say this). But as you can see, it is not for Italian Eurofighter (despite the usual precedent of minor playerbase), the most overperforming EFT Players are British.
So what is the conclusion? The only thing that will kill Rafale (other than Bug Report) is the popularity, I take the Chinese Air Tech Tree for example, J-7E used to be the most overperforming aircraft at its BR, but when the Dance of Dragons update arrives, Chinese Tech Tree instantly maybe becoming “Fourth” Major Nation (although still overpowered at some point, especially the Taiwanese Mirage 2000), since if you look at statshark playerbase, Chinese Tech Tree are 40K at its top BR, while Rafale only 12K (excluding the lower BR of course). The problem is the French Tech Tree lacks interesting (although actually overpowered) premium, like, they could’ve sold Mirage 2000 Premium and they give is just pseudo Mirage F1-CT. At least from the stats, most French playerbase are stuck at Mirage 2000-5F, idk if this is due to Mirage 2000-5F being at better BR (despite 14.0 will always get uptiered to 14.3 anyway).
I think this is just because we’ve been stuck with mostly the Tornado F3 for ages or the worse Gripen.
Italy has had an F-16 for ages and skipped the dark days of the Tornado ADV
Germany has had a Mig-29, and only briefly had Gen 3 vs everything else.
Britian had Tornado F3 vs F-16 and Mig-29 for the better part of a year
Britain also doesnt really have much in the way of strong dogfighter going from 9.7 to 13.7 (changing with the F-18). So grinding through the tree sets you up for the defensive gameplay the Typhoon is quite good at
Its the same reason why German Typhoons do so well in CAS, they are use to the Tornado ASSTA1, but given them a much better aircraft and they can make it work all the more.
Wierdly, due to the lack of HOBS, the Tornado F3 and Typhoon have a very similarly playstyle, at least for me.
Youve got that the wrong way around. My example was the british Typhoon, because it has a massive performance difference to the italian one despite being the same plane and both being rather small playerbases but one gets teamed up with france much more often.
The Rafale is already massively more popular than it was before, France 14.3 is more than double the playerbase of UK 14.3 and almost the same as Germany 14.3. The Rafale is not a niche plane played by only experts anymore its the 4th most popular 14.3/14.0 after the 3 majors and its only 10% behind number 3
The thing killing the Rafale would be bringing the other 14.3s at a similar level by fixing the glaring issues they have instead of shoving the 50th buff the Rafales way
Yeah I agree, I was wrong, it should be “The team composition of British Typhoon is more favourable due to France always being in their team”, sorry for not elaborating it further lol.
Of course, France is getting popular, but compared to the Chinese, France is still half of them, I think the metrics would make France getting mirrored if it playerbase reach 40K players like the Chinese. IMO, if only J-10C was released soon, I think it would be third most cancerous aircraft, because I do remember the time when J-10A was introduced it was cancer as hell because so many player using them.
Yeah I agree with this, that’s why I also point out the Bug Report can kill Rafale if Rafale getting nerfed or other getting fixed, especially the C-5 Seeker fix at very least.
But Tornado ADV is the most OP thing Britain can have during its time (obviously not counting the early days, it’s very sucks lol).
This much argument I think it’s pretty useless since Britain will always be teamed up with France anyway. In 12.0, ADV teamed up with F1, in 13.7 Gripen (used to) teamed up with Mirage 2000-5, and in 14.0 (now 14.3) EFT teamed up with Rafale, unlike Italy which is the opposite of France, and always get stomped due to being team up with the worse composition.
I see 2 problems with that tho
Its only been like that for about a year. Though the high K/D honestly, is due to the sheer number of premium players at that BR. Any with a braincell should eat the Tornado F3 for breakfast, but i’ve killed more F-18Cs than you can imagine. There is no way a Tornado F3 is better than an F-18C.
I’ve fought against the Rafale loads.
Tornado doesnt have to deal with sparrows. So is better
Yes the game doubled, but the problem is, it’s still not enough to make Rafale gets mirrored (just look at the number, France playerbase still half of China), at best I think if Rafale gets mirrored the winrate would be like China, definitely still the best, but wouldn’t be as overperforming as today.
Ah now i get what you mean with mirrored. I thought you meant mirroring the chinese playerbase in numbers but you mean if france could face france, correct?
Maybe…
Though im intrigued by the F-18 Britain is getting and seeing if those issues are actually true or just exaggerated