Dear developers you know it’s to much at this point
It’s clearly obvious that Rafale is outclassing everything else
The airframe that can pull 16+g load and the mica Wich not only the most maneuverable missile on aircraft but it’s taking twice the effort to defeat also it’s don’t care about multipathing .
You clearly know about the win rate of that type of aircraft and it’s clearly over preforming
So out of everything you need to do in this case isn’t buffing the thing .
At least I am not talking about any nerfs but just don’t change anything it’s the least aircraft that’s needs any buff’s
You can’t imagine how toxic it is to play against it these days.
2nd point,… Learn to use your AIM-120’s,… they’re made for longer range than MICA,…
3rd point,…MICA does have a Hard wall at 50km,… can’t go further,… → AIM-120C-5 and R-77-1 are 120km
4th point,… winrate is due to Playerbase,… French mains are far better than anyone, because they have a freakin bad techtree along the way, making them to learn skills and methods.
5th point,… Rafale is already pretty nerfed considering how many things are still missing on it.
I’ll put simply because I think it’s absolutely dumb…
Rafale is currently an issue for balancing, sure. That’s about it.
It came out too early while being one of the most upgraded Version we could get (aside from the fact it could the Hand and 2 Micas)
Is the French player base that good ?? I don’t think so, most struggle heavily when grinding due to the lack of good vehicle is somewhat true.
Nonetheless, Belgian tech tree helped to mitigate this issue.
When it comes to top tier most people do not handle the mechanics inherent to this BR and often find themselves multipathing being lost or else. Having an aircraft that allows to you to have all the necessary qualities to mitigate the skill issue is a really good thing.
Still you need to take into account that Rafale is facing aircraft that struggles to win against it in most situations (idk about 1v1 with the new buffs).
Further more what makes the win rate of the rafale so high is the fact it’s ONE of the only nation to face ITSELF. Which helps tremendously to seal club most lobbies.
Still realise that having a rafale against you technically mean you more than likely to lose since they have 65%+ WR
Anyone dying to an AMRAAM fired from further than about 10km has skill issues.
They are incredibly easy to defeat.
Congrats. The absolute max range Id fire a C5 is about 25-30km. But usually those are defeated quite easily…
25km < 50km
MICAs though, are 100x more powerful within WVR and short range BVR due to having OP kinematics and a better seeker than everyone else. They are overperforming. They have a magical sustainer that never existed.
This is just pure copium. Everyone knows the Rafail is OP and that no one else has anything even close to equal. Not even the Typhoon with all its perpetual artificial nerfs can compete.
Its not nerfed. Claiming it is is just pure copium. The Typhoon is way more nerfed. There isnt a single component on the Typhoon that is correctly modeled. Heck, the German Typhoon isnt even named correctly.
For there to be parity.
Typhoon needs:
CAPTOR-E
ASRAAM/IRIS-T
Brimstone 2/3s (ideally with MMW)
PIRATE Overhaul
FM unnerfed
BOL Overhaul
Total cockpit overhaul.
Other nations need to get better airframes. Like Sweden doesnt even have the Gripen NG yet
congrats,… firing a MICA at low altitude over 10km have the exact same fate,… notched/chaffed or MPed,… people learn to decoy any missile - pretty skill issue if you still can’t,…
shall i continue?
MICA-IR → none
Magic-2 IRCCM → wrongly copy pasted value from R-73
no SCALP / no AM.39
Where are the Stealth features? nowhere to be found dispite having in-game features given to the F-117.
Rafale can get some too, namely SPECTRA and Partial Frame forms
So yes, Rafale is still currently missing a lot of features,… and copium comes from your Typhoon being under modelized - congrats you’ve seen what France suffered since Day 1 in Jet tier (every top Jet aircraft of France, since 2017, always were nerfed and badly modelized until Bug-reports appeared)
Aim-9M missing most forms of IRCCM
IRCCM only works in rear-aspect
C&P Aim-9L lock ranges
Ontop of the fact Aim-9M has the weakest kinematics by far.
No Brimstone 2
No Brimstone 3
No Spear-3
No Storm Shadow
No Taurus
No EGBU-24
No ePaveway II
No Matre-ER
Heck. We dont have a single FnF weapon currently. So…
Meanwhile IR AASMs shouldnt even work against moving targets
And? Again. Typhoon has the Tornados RCS and missing all its RCS reduction features. Its 10x larger than it should be. Nothing else has it yet (though Rafail will probably get a year before the Typhoon because reasons)
Its just not though. It has the best radar, best FM, best missiles. etc etc.
Typhoon hasnt got a single accurately modeled part yet.
I agree that Typhoon is in even more nerfed status (UK as France have been in trouble in the past too) ,… but Rafale still miss features,… that’s undeniable.
But you should stop bitching about Rafale to nerf it,… that’s exactly what the current thread is about,…
if we nerf Rafale, why upgrading Typhoon become relevant?
that’s called a Double Standard.
RCS improvements havent been added to a single other aircraft by the F-117.
ECM isnt even in game.
You are using features not really modeled in game as some proof the Rafail is underperforming.
Meanwhile the Typhoon doesnt have a single FnF AGM.
Its missing most of its HMD symbology (all of which is modeled on the Rafale)
Its missing its AESA radar
BOL is massively nerfed for no good reason
let alone all the FM stuff that could be fixed, but they wont.
Because it should be 14.7/15.0 right now. Its a one horse race. Nothing can realistically compete against it. It should never have gotten half the buffs it actually got like 8x MICA EM. It would probably still be dominating with only 6.
To claim “its fine because its suppose to be OP” defeats the entire point of this being a video game.
Like it’s isn’t enough for you to slaughter 4-6 in average air realistic game so you want to win every dogfight and notch all the missiles because you will get a wight decreased (dev server)
I don’t know. I personally don’t want the Indian Rafale and think the Tejas would be a much worthier addition, but other British Mains may strongly disagree.
