yeah although 700-ish kg and a warhead of about 200kg seems very overkill for air to air
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Perfect, it’ll be reliable at disintegrating the Su-30SM2s so they can’t do their flat spin launch missiles cheese tactic
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I want this so badly lmao
Could have appropriate weapons and weapon systems integrated for that mode only. MMW Brimstones, LOAL capabilities for munitions. ALLO cruise missiles like Taurus and SCALP, cluster munitions, etc…
Tbf, quite a bit of the 256x256km map we currently have isnt being used. probs in the ballpark of ~33% of the map has literally nothing.
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Well, in the last update the Su30 got internal modules to help prevent this, on the other hand the rafale has yet to receive them, making it more capable at pulling the “cheesy” flat spinning shots you mentioned.
I don’t know how you can get that, from having the same WR, the British EFT having quite a significantly better KD makes the rafale somewhat better ? Kinda seems to me that it shows that the British EFT is getting more kills per game on average than the rafale, which would make it better.
As for why the British EFT and Rafale still have excellent WR, I think it can clearly be explained by the EFT dominating long range engagement and Rafales destroying the close range engagements, with only the Su30SM2 with its R77-1 capable of reacting to both, but they don’t usually play very smartly, hence their lower WR than the EFT and Rafale, while many still consider it the best overall top tier jets
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It doesn’t make iz “better”, but it makes it overperforming in terms of BR, ie. the BR should be increased.
Having the same WR with the lower kill ratio means Rafale has easier games (needs to kill less for the same victory conditions, through various means), which means the conditions need to be increased, or you need to decrease EF’s conditions (BR) to balance those two out, eg.
The only win condition in this forsaken game mode is by killing the entire enemy team. Ie, if you win with lower KPS than another plane having the same matchmaking, it means you are being « carried » to some degree by said plane with higher KPS. Or are you not playing the game and just taking any form of statistic and twisting it to make seems like the rafale is overperforming ?
For some reason, you think that the “carried” plane doesn’t have any agency in the game.
Other types get “carried” as well, but do not score as well, so your point is rather invalid.
The plane projects power in various means, which is why;
Didn’t say it didn’t have any agency in the game. I’ve actually said on the comment previous to this one that the combo of the British EFT and Rafale is what makes them both have such high WR.
But, if we put that WR in a vacuum, the fact that the British EFT gets more KPS than the rafale (and assuming same matchmaking, which is kind off a stretch), this simply means that the EFT are getting more kills than the rafale per game on average. As simple as that.
Going from those stats, trying to argue that it’s still because the rafale overperforms because it somehow does less kills than the EFT is just stupid.
And, from my experience, that’s exactly what happens. Long range fox 3 still get a stupid amount of blind people early game (which is still surprising to this day), where the rafale can’t compete, and rafales only do the cleanup after that first waves. But since a significant amount of games are almost wiped on either side during this first engagement, that’s why rafales don’t get as much kills as the British EFT. Hence why the British EFT have better KPS.
And then because the rafale is still superior to any other aircrafts sub 10-15km, it finishes the remains of the enemy team pretty easily, hence the overall high win rate of the British EFT + rafale.
But you can’t put it in vacuum.
You are literally grasping at straws rn.
“Put it in a vacuum”, as, if we consider the matchmaking of the 2 airplanes to be identical (which it is for the most part), and considering their almost identical WR, we can ignore that as a factor of the difference in KPS between both aircrafts.
But it isn’t, which is the point.
You don’t really understand what’s the BR system here for, do you?
The entire discussion about “how the British EFT has better stats than the other EFTs” has been that the most common matchmaking for Britain and France have been fighting quasi exclusively together. I’m not the one bringing this point up, it was discussed over and over by EFT mains in multiple threads including this one
And, why are you even bringing the BR system in for ? Both planes are at top tier, they are at the same BR…
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That’s true, but
It definitely can with its flight performance. 12km altitude Mach 1.5 mica ain’t nothing to scoff at in the bvr phase. you can get kills early game just like a euro or su30sm2.
The people who would die to an aim 120 from 50 clicks out would also die to a mica.
For example, recently Even in a full uptier in the su-27sm I’m getting bvr kills from 35+km with the standard r-77 which means people still don’t know what the hell they’re doing
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I was more thinking of those shots fired 20, 30km and beyond at the beginning of matches. They still get a surprising amount of people. And when I do that with a rafale, if not to force an enemy to play more defensively (knowing I won’t get the kill), those people die from faster missiles (at those ranges obv, MICA is a short range monster in that aspect) before my missiles reaches them. The rafale really shines mid/late game, tho thanks to the fact that it can easily evade those long range missiles at the beginning of a match.
And those people firing their missiles 50 clicks won’t die from MICA since they’d already been killed from R77-1, AIm120C/D and other longer range missiles, since they don’t know how to defeat radar missiles.
The British EFT probably gets more kills than the rafale cause it can kill those players faster than a Rafale can with MICA. That’s my main point.
Now if MICA NG was added, seeing how Derby ER performs, that would be an entirely different discussion concerning those long range shots since the Time to Target would be obscene compared to current missiles up to at least 40-50km
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Ohh boy
The only war zone thing I recall was the damn midges. They are a nightmare in early summer.
Maybe… Though the elephant in the room is still the Italian and to a lesser degree the German Typhoon performing a lot worse than the Rafale and FGR4.
So there must be some MM reason for that.
Though F15 space climbers being dumb doesn’t mean the Typhoon is actually massively overperforming. I think it’s about right in terms of the current top tier line up (bar Israel obviously) though in need of many fixes
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current top tier air as a whole is a complete mess at the moment, but the eurofighters feel so weird to play for me its low speed stability just doesnt seem to exist the acceleration looks to be underperforming im pretty sure its still missing 2 amraams on the 2 inner wing pylons where it can take spices and brimstones the CAPTOR-E while being an amazing radar is also underperformiing like hell (like every AESA) idk it just seems really odd to play. though this all could just be a skill issue (also that it still cant carry anything more than aim120b/c and aim9m which are like the worst top tier missiles)
I don’t play the EFT, but have the same feeling with the rafale. The instructor just keep the plane wobbling around the cursor at low speed, making it a bit annoying to aim the gun
I don’t think there’s a report on that ? Would need to be proven by an IRL plane actually carrying AMRAAM on those pylons, though it’s likely its technically compatible (but if we spoke of technically compatible every NATO plane would share basically all their armements). For example the rafale is said to be compatible with Spices (as marketed by the manufacturer), but no reports have been made because there’s no proof it was actually tested
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Yeah there’s a brochure that shows it but no irl plane has been seen with the missiles there