and with the BR changes coming anyway, MFG, WTD61 and A200 wont even see F-14s anymore anyway. Just a shame the Gr1, ASSTA1 and A200A cant move down to 11.3
I mean its pretty easy to prove chaff works, even BOL chaff which is comically nerfed at the minute;
Clowning on R-77’s with the F.3 late and BOL chaff.
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Yeah, i’ve yet to encounter any meaningful issues (god I want BOL fixed or Phimat) , at least not sicne the new FM on the Tornado (had a few Aim-54s before cause damage in the F3 because I couldnt turn fast enough to fully get into the notch/avoid the splash damage from it hitting the ground but didnt actually get killed by them)
But still… OP doesnt even have to worry about Aim-54s anymore if hes flying the WTD61.
Literally every single Phoenix that as got me is my fault.
Incoming Pheonix! Lets see what they do!
The answer was, cut afterburner, couple lazy 3-4G turns mostly staying on course to the base, dropped a few flares (no chaff), crashed into the floor;
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So the almost the correct tactics if Aim-54s had an IR seeker :D
Now doing this, this would be truly next level.
Also regarding BOL, any internal developments?
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Nothing yet, I’ll let you all know when I know though so don’t worry.
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Do we need to pay to have your dev poking stick resharpened?
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While it sucks in the Tornado if you’re bombing, also not being first in the “stack” of friendly aircraft going up the middle helps, it’s not always a 100% guarantee, but can help.
You cant outrun the F-4s, I dont even know if you would outrun the F-111s, So I dont even know why people even try. Last time I took the Tornado Gr1 out into ARB, I just edge skirted, nearly got 2 base kills after they respawned (would have gotten 2 but forgot to change bomb fuse settings and took some splash damage) RTB’ed and could have gotten 2x more base kills if I didnt instead go and gunkill a Mig-21 winning the match (did have a sea harrier helping allowing me to fight the way I needed to fight, but this was pre-FM buff so would probably manage these days)
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Yeah that’s what I’d do is just skirt the map, sometimes I try to ram my AIM-9L in people, but most of the time map skirting if you’re bombing is the way to go.
Yep, or play Sim :D Which is what I normally do
I continue to head to my base to bomb it. Anything else would mean another team member will bomb it. They should just nerf Pheonixes and Farkours. Otherwise bombing bases is impossible.
bruh
You don’t try to do anything to dodge a missile, and then complain when you die? Also, don’t bomb bases.
This is just “whatever kills me is OP” but worse
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If you are flying the WTD61, then wait 2 days, you wont see them anymore. But…
“I cant defeat these missile by flying in a perfectly straight line therefore nerf them” is just a bad take.
Personally I want MP reduced even further sooner rather than later (and this from someone who plays the Tornado Gr1, the weakest of the 6 Tornado IDSs)
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Tornado’s only thing to do is to bomb bases for RP, SL or tasks. When you do the slightest maneuver, the next in the stack will overtake you. You will lose the base. All this nonsene you describe (notching, turn cold etc) simply defeats the purpose. I need to get the base, otherwise the whole plane and match becomes pointless. Thats why these long range radar missiles need to go or there needs to be a more practical mechanic to defeat them. It was perfect as it was, you just had to fly low to avoid radar missiles. You could perfectly take on bases.
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