R77 is worst Fox3 so far

Yeah, inferior PESAs that only started showing up after the west was using AESAs.

But that is irrelevant to ingame. The reason their aircraft are hampered is because they never got to good planar arrays by the time the rest of the world had moved on.

They have no in between step from the N001/N019 and the PESAs. Quick edit: they do have a radar that would be this step, the Zhuk. The problem is they never putbit in a jet they used. The MiG-29M would solve this issue. Every other nation ingame is essentially at that step, the difference being most skipped PESAs entirely and went from planar arrays to AESAs.

I was thinking that , I doubt this guy complained when R-27ERs were just destroying everything in sight and even earlier SARH missiles like R-24R are still an extremely potent missile when used right at their respective BR. This might be the first time the soviets don’t have some form of missile advantage.

But Yeah… We’ll have to enjoy have the AAM advantage only briefly. Im sure R-77-1s will come next major and Aim-120Cs sometime next year.

Agree 100%

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R77-1 will not dominate, it is almost same, R-27ER very nice rockets, but unfortunately you need to keep target acquire in radar which is not allowed you to make 3-9

You don’t have to guide the R-27ER the entire way. You can stealth guide it since it has IOG and can re-acquire lock as long as the target is within the missile’s radar cone.

Nope, refer to my post here:

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The 27 ER never dominated. All SARHs were trivial to defeat in the strong multipathing era. The AIM-9M was the missile that was dominating.

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The “stealth 27ER” is a bad meme.

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It was, undoubtedly, the singular best long range missile in the game for almost an entire year.

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It works.

The best long range missile at a time when BVR missiles were NOT META. The META was was ruled with an iron fist by close range fox-2 furballs because strong multipathing made all radar guided weapons toothless.

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This is an over exaggeration. IRCCM missiles were no doubt the meta but radar missiles were not “toothless”. They were effective in head-ons especially since IRCCM missiles are not effective at head-on aspect. Besides, the Flanker had the R-27ET which was and still is amazing if radar missiles aren’t your jam.

The R-77 isn’t the worst Fox-3 missile; the Israeli Derby and South African R-Darter are.

At least the R-77 is full-powered throughout its flight, unlike the high-altitude, extended-range trajectories of the Israeli and South African designs, which struggle to hit targets at either extreme of their range.

The problems faced by top Soviet aircraft are not just due to the missiles, but also the radars. N019 and N001 are simply garbage compared to NATO equivalents.

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They were toothless in that you could AFK your way into the merge. Their sole purpose was to punish anyone who took a gambit to try to climb above multipathing altitude to better position themselves within the fox2 furball.

The so called “stealth ER launches” are at best a novel parlor trick. They’re not a viable tactic for serious play and at best you’re just confusing new players that are looking for advice.

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Maybe on flat ground, you could probably only do this on Sinai.

This and not everyone had a perfect below 100m altitude. Terrain changes and some people aren’t in a perfect below 100m multipath zone. The R-27ER is a very fast accelerating missile and people sometimes don’t have the time to react.

It doesn’t matter. If it works in RB then its already a viable tactic. It doesn’t only work on “new players”, thats just your way of coping. Stealth ER tactic is also a way to force the enemy defensive early before they can even fire their AMRAAMs.

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R-27ER was OP but also SARH/ARH were too easy to dodge so we had to nerf multipathing.

It has an acceleration of 158m/s^2. This is better than the AIM-7F/M of 117, but worse than pretty much every other top tier SARH missile. Skyflashes for example have 181, and AIM-7E2 180.

Well yeah the Skyflashes have like 2.8s-3s booster time whereas the R-27ER has like 8s. Skyflashes are deadly within 4-5km and thats really it, beyond that they’re very easy to dodge a simple F-pole maneuver and its gone.

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If I could take 6x R77, 2x ET and 2X R73 it would be the perfect loadout.

If only you could take out 2 R-73s…