Any advice how to use R77 properly in game? So far Aim120 is top Fox3, They have better radar and better rockets, how to fight with them?
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hug the ground in the same way as to dodge phoenix from tomcat spammers
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You climb into your F-4S and work on grinding out your F-15’s. Top tier isn’t even REMOTELY balanced right now and USA is just facerolling in basically every metric. The best way to make a difference is to just jump onto the American bias bandwagon and make the problem even worse.
If you absolutely insist on fighting uphill in the snow both ways, then try to flank around the sides of the map at low altitudes and attempt to sneak into pitbull range and fire your R-77’s at people with your HMD. You’re massively disadvantaged at these closer ranges due to your ACM only having a 10km range compared to their 19km, but you can awkwardly attempt to use IRST ACM to acquire a lock within that 10-19km gap and swap to radar afterwards for the missile lock. This is slower, requires more button presses, doesn’t always work, and you’re just out of luck in the rain.
Don’t even think about using your datalink. Don’t even dare to fire that R-77 beyond pitbull range. It will fall right out of the sky if you try to do such a shot since gaijin isn’t properly modeling their drag. Make sure that you launch while flying as fast as possible since the R-77 needs every ounce of speed that it can get. Meanwhile in the harrier I’ve slapped players who are 10km straight up while I’m on the deck and hovering BACKWARDS. The F-15C and F-16C do not remotely belong at the same BR as the Su-27SM. It’s a sick joke.
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This is indeed a problem, and I feel disappointed. After 10 years of playing, I have fully upgraded the USSR tech tree, reaching the SU-27SM. But despite all my efforts, the AIM-120 constantly takes me out of the game, depriving me of enjoyment. That’s where my frustration comes from.
There’s definitely a lack of balance. However, to be fair, it should be noted that in terms of air defense, the Soviet Union is clearly superior to other nations. Also, when it comes to ground attacks, the SU-25SM3 performs excellently — on average, I manage to score 5 to 10 kills in this setup. But when it comes to pure air-to-air duels, things are much worse — it’s truly a sad and frustrating situation.
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You basically have to treat the R-77 as a radar guided medium range fox 2. Your best bet is to zigzag at ground level, and try to position yourself to ambush enemy planes. The R77 isn’t quite as good as the MICA EM in wvr fights, but it is still a very potent close range missile from my experience dealing with them. If you can close in on an aim-9m/aim-120 slinger and keep them in a maneuver fight, the only option they will have to fight you is guns, because both of those missiles are useless in high G dogfights inside of 1-2km
All fox-3s have the same, dramatically underperforming radar. The only difference is a couple have a slightly shorter pitbull range, but that is hardly a factor ingame.
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You have to use the host plane’s radar to acquire the initial lock. There is a MASSIVE difference between basically every USA radar and the 27SM’s.
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Which is not relevant to the fox-3s own radar, which is what it being stated.
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They go hand in hand and a good radar is necessary to take full advantage of a fox3 and the americans absolutely have the much better radars to pair with their much better missiles. Much faster refresh rates, more flexible search patterns, much better at holding locks, and the absolutely MASSIVE advantage in ACM range. USA players an AIM-120 in the air while the 27SM is waiting ~8 seconds to finish a TWS sweep. The American bias is STRONG.
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Climb. Use the R-27ER for long range engagements, and use the R77 for medium to short range engagements. If you hug the ground you just become an easy target with no breathing room.
Bring the R-27ET, your missile loadout should be the R-73, R-77, R-27ER, R-27ET. Bringing different missiles give you options and versatility making the Flanker sometimes even better than its counterparts in certain situations.
Contrary to what people believe the Su-27SM is a good aircraft. It’s not as good as the F-15s, F-16s, or Gripens with AMRAAMs or something equivalent but I’d say its an average of the pack plane. People like to overexaggerate the weaknesses of the Flanker and never actually tries to make up for it and just complain non stop refusing to adapt.
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I don’t get the handwringing over the supposed “bias” of missile performances. R-27ER dominated for awhile, AIM-120A dominates right now, R-77-1 will dominate, and then R-37M and PL-15 will dominate even more before the advent of AIM-260 and Meteor.
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Aren’t most modern russian jets equiped with PESA radars?>\
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Wait till this guy tries the R-Darter
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Yeah, inferior PESAs that only started showing up after the west was using AESAs.
But that is irrelevant to ingame. The reason their aircraft are hampered is because they never got to good planar arrays by the time the rest of the world had moved on.
They have no in between step from the N001/N019 and the PESAs. Quick edit: they do have a radar that would be this step, the Zhuk. The problem is they never putbit in a jet they used. The MiG-29M would solve this issue. Every other nation ingame is essentially at that step, the difference being most skipped PESAs entirely and went from planar arrays to AESAs.
I was thinking that , I doubt this guy complained when R-27ERs were just destroying everything in sight and even earlier SARH missiles like R-24R are still an extremely potent missile when used right at their respective BR. This might be the first time the soviets don’t have some form of missile advantage.
But Yeah… We’ll have to enjoy have the AAM advantage only briefly. Im sure R-77-1s will come next major and Aim-120Cs sometime next year.
Agree 100%
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R77-1 will not dominate, it is almost same, R-27ER very nice rockets, but unfortunately you need to keep target acquire in radar which is not allowed you to make 3-9
You don’t have to guide the R-27ER the entire way. You can stealth guide it since it has IOG and can re-acquire lock as long as the target is within the missile’s radar cone.
Nope, refer to my post here:
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The 27 ER never dominated. All SARHs were trivial to defeat in the strong multipathing era. The AIM-9M was the missile that was dominating.
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