A mig 29 with r73 is in between the f15A and a su27, so in your opinion it’s closer to 12.7in mine it’s closer to 13.0 and that’s all
You are not considering the best fox1 in the game it has
The mig 21 bison is a menace at 12.3 and I’d really like to own it but remember that a mig29 as a better airframe, double the amount of fox 2 and double the power of fox 1 so yes, for me it should be 0.7 br above the bison
Because N019 is laughably easy to notch. Arguably F-15A with its Sparrows have an easier time leading missile to its target than MiG-29 is.
So, MiG-29 that has:
Less Fox-1s than F-15A
Worse radar than F-15A
Same amount of IRCCM missiles than F-15A
Worse RWR than F-15A
1/4th of the amount of countermeasures of F-15A
Worse flight performance than F-15A in every single speed range
Worse fuel economy than F-15A
Is somehow better than F-15A?
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Yeah it has less weapons but much better than the f15 ones and if you can’t see how much better r73 and r27et are it’s a you problem, not mine
I want you to remember that at 12.7 there are other planes, not only the f15 but others like the mirage 2000 that has no hms and only 4 missiles, a mig 29 with r73 should not be at the same br.
FIrst of all MiG-29 doesn’t have ETs. Second of all, i used both 9M and R-73 and if you think that 9M is somehow worse than it is your problem, not mine. R-73 is easily counterable missile, unless you deliberately put yourself in a situation where R-73 can’t be flared.
Same with ERs. As i said, it might be the very best Fox-1 in the game, but without a radar that can hold lock decently well it will just be easily notched by anyone that isn’t a zomber.
And advanced defence suite with MAW, Magic 2s that have same IRCCM as R-73 (that you consider so good that they instantly warrant 13.0 btw), Super 530s that are actually quite decent Fox-1s and flight model that laughs at MiG-29 and F-15A
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That was a typo, i was talking about ER (altough I’m pretty sure it will get them as it will be almost identical to the Mig29G that’s 13.0 btw)
I dont like to bring stats out but you left me no choice, you say the aim9m is soooo good and the r73 is bad, easily flarable, you say that the mirage 2000 with 2 really good fox2, 2 good fox1 and no HMS but a laughable MAW even if you have never played almost anything with 9m, you’ve never touched anything in the french TT and you’ve never even touched an f15.
You’re just defending a plane that already exists in the game as the Mig29G and that’s already at 13.0 so there should be no reason this one stays at 12.7.
I’ve played the Mirages and F-15s, F-16s, gripens, and think he’s right. The MiG-29, even with R-73, does not deserve 13.0. I would rather take any of the aforementioned for any situation. And the 9M bodies the R73 because of how often you encounter a good chance to employ it- stealth launches, side aspect on 3rd party. R-73 has such poor range performance you can only employ it in a dogfight, where the enemy is looking and expects it- even if IRCCM is good, the missile that is unseen will always be better than the one that is seen, and R-73 is always seen
Then don’t, and it won’t make you look stupid.
I played Gripen and Eurofighter. If 9M is as good as o found at 14.3 and 13.7 then it will be even better at 12.7
I literally going trough US tech tree right now purely because I would be able to clown on 12.7 bracket in “fair and balanced” F-15A
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I would always take an r73 over than an Aim9m
These audios need to be studied :')
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we need decompression not more compression, F-15 shouldn’t be 12.7
At this point it’s just fantasies. Sure we can fantasize about 15.0 br, perfect balance and decompression, but i rather face reality and make claims based on that, rather than some hypotheticals
am I seeing an opertunity for a shameless plug?
su-27 and its deritatives at 13.0 definitely should go up to 13.3
theyre ridiculous at 13.0, best 13.0s in the game
Because R-60Ms are still A historical loadout.
And it’s cool to have a Mig-29 with the first ever loadout at a lower BR.
Not until Su-30 is at 13.3
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Not at 12.7 where IRCCM missiles nowadays are as common as fleas on a stray dog
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Then those aircraft move up, which is what I’ve been arguing for years.