I think we should get experimental spaags based on M113 before uptiering R3.
it is a very good spaa if you know how to aim it, and it is far more effective in anti cas role than leopard or low tier vehicles.
they should limit ap ammo to 40/70 (like an amount needed only for self defence) lower it’s br to 4.7. give us a 6.0 AA and make R3 a light tank. remember not having thermals can’t be a BR higher then wiesel…
it would be like the XM800T, it would have a stabalizer and greater speed
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And smaller
track is way to go for rats vehicles…they climb better, can turn on the spot, better starting on steep hills…
The AB 43 is great bc it has wheels. It wouldn’t be nearly as good with tracks.
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I think the R3 with stab and dm63 would be fine at 7.7, it would be like the japanese type 87 things
Make HVAP perform as it did in reality (it was not actually total garbage) make DM 43 and 63 even remotely close to what it was really like,
and maybe then the R3 can go up and be an excellent light tank/scout!
Really wish they’d fix the R3.
Would be such a good light tank at 7.7 if they implemented the proper stab, scouting and apds like you talk about. Would be a great counterpart to the XM800T, Type 87 RCV (P), Fox, etc.
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nah dude, in comparison to the type87proto:
R3 has lower turret orizontal and vertical guidance
R3 has all crew packed together
R3 has less wheels (and with the new wheels mechanic it does matter)
R3 has no NVG of any kind
So it can’t be neither on par with wiesel or type87proto…
agreed
yeah it would be great for that to happen, and it kinda annoys me since gaijin is all about historical accuracy but they go ahead with no source, nerf the R3’s stabilizer and instead of making it a scout vehicle like it was in real life, they make it an spaa, a vehicle it was never designed to be
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To be fair, it is a very good AA, but I would prefer its historical role.
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SUB-I-II 5.3 DM63 APDS
AMX-10P 6.0 DM63 APDS
R3 T20 FA-HS 6.0 M601 HVAP
Very balanced…
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Then make a R3(late) and give it the proposed fixes
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I would say it would do fine at 7.7 I think it’s a little faster than the Japanese wheels boys but a plus to the r3 is that it’s smaller, and has an unmanned turret, irl it did have nvd as well
unmanned turret is useless when the ammo rack is at its side…
the same ammo rack that can explode when hit by 7.62…
being smaller means that crew is packed togheter (4 vs 5 of the “japanese wheels boys”)
size is a really big deal when dealing with rat tanks such as the xm800t, the Japanese type 87 (p) is really tall and can frontally be penetrated by 50 cals while the R3 is immune frontally from 50 cals, the R3 also has better elevation angles which can help with airplanes, and the R3 is amphibious, overall what im saying is that the R3 would fit perfectly at 7.7 with its irl features.
That’s not true at all, it seems you’ve missed a giant windshield. It can actually be penetrated even by some small caliber mgs through windshield in close combat.