R-77s are horrid and the R-77-1 is needed

Oh, well they all wobble. I’ve done a few range-tests and didn’t notice anything odd about the AIM120. It had a tiny increase in drag (like 1.7%), however its engines also got like 2% stronger, so it probably just cancelled it out. R77 used to sit around M0.4 slower than AIM120 during the terminal phase, now it’s around M0.2 slower.

AIM120 nerf was mainly to its pull. Does not pull as hard anymore, seeker is the same afaik. I believe it goes active at 20km, compared to R77 at 16km so it’s seeker has more range at least.

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But it isn’t underperforming?

It very much is

its underperforming but its not unplayable.

It’s only good in the 1 circle but you lose every bit of your airspeed (which you should be good for 3-4 turns) as I play it in DCS a ton.

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Yeah but for some reason it won’t pull at all above 1000kmh.

The compression is absolutely insane on that thing

The 2 circle/rate is tuned to manual graphs and IS accurate.

problem is that they tuned it in a lazy way by just adding more drag which creates a slew of problems

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İs Jesus coming to this world today. A day where I agree with AusChalkWarrior

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I am not unreasonable, I am just a troll sometimes

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Well, that a TARFU-grade skill issue.

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Bro, even when I fire all 8 aim 120 at the same time like a monkey I get 2-3 kills

I believe you.

I played with spAMRAAMs (F-16C), and R-77 (29SMT, 27SM).

And i know how AIM-120 over performing compared to R-77.

That the reason, why i take only 2 R-77 for head-ons, and prefer to use a R-27ER/ET, praying for obtain R-27EA (its a R-27, but Fox-3).

If enemy stupidly fly in my direction, i just hope on speed of my missle, and that i have enough time to evade 120, after kill (if lucky).
But most the time, F-15/16/etc, just force me to stay defensively (spam 120, and momentarily gets back to notch, because of superior radar, FM, quantity and drag of spAMRAAM), than shorten the distance, and use 9M, that ain’t give a duck, about my countermeasures and manouvers.

While, R-73, which have HMD, and thrust vectoring use them only to been flared even at point-blank distance.

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You got a buff of your R-77

Dunno, now I do not know. I went on a business trip two days ago (from another one, yeah), and I’ll be back in a week at best. So my data could be 3 days out of date.

What exactly is the buff?

The “buff” isnt by much. And the SU-27SM radar is still the worst radar at top tier. Along with the flight model.

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Less drag, more loft

loft is nerf in war thunder

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R-77 got less drag and a bit more maneuverable. 120 got maneuverability nerf.